Potential new hunter pets in WoD

[Loki]

I sorta got the same feeling, but I'm really surprised about no Talbuks or Clefthooves for this expansion. When I heard "Return to Outland" as their expansion pitch, I was like how can they not include those two families?

[Keilden]

TBC had all-new pets. No old family in it.



So in conclusion, I don't think there is any pattern, any rule to it. There isn't a "only x amount of old families per expansion" rule. It's basically whatever they think feels good. For that reason, Pterodactyls, Kunchong, Sand Reavers, etc. could make it into WoD.

TBC added Serpents.

[Qraljar]

TBC had all-new pets. No old family in it.



So in conclusion, I don't think there is any pattern, any rule to it. There isn't a "only x amount of old families per expansion" rule. It's basically whatever they think feels good. For that reason, Pterodactyls, Kunchong, Sand Reavers, etc. could make it into WoD.

TBC added Serpents.

Hey, you're correct! I can't recall when which pets were added, so I went to WoWhead's hunter pet page, which lists all current pets and has an icon to signify when they were added. Serpents didn't have the TBC icon, so I didn't see. But you're right.

[Qraljar]

This is not a new pet, so it's not a model yet, but in WoD, the Shaman Ghost Wolf will be revamped and use the Warlords of Draenor wolf model. As we all know, Shamans also have a spectral wolf glyph that gives them the Karoma-style model. This probably means that, before long, there'll be a Warlords of Draenor Wolf model with the Karoma-type of skin. I did a ..not-so-great edit to show what it might look like for those who care.

[Rawr]

I was hoping for a glyph that made my shammy look like a white wolf/coyote, yes the RP is strong here.

[Arthur]

I think they already have the wolf skin in game as the spectral glyph, I believe it's purple. I posted about it in the last page -

Hey guys, Ghost wolf currently has a new model~ (With the spectral glyph)


It *almost* seems like it could of been this guy, with spectral effects:
http://wow-petopia.com/images/skin_pix/ ... shadow.jpg

And here is the video if anyone else wants to take a peek (It's actually for the race quests but you can see it in the start)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsOuX06C6sA it's in the very beginning after the wowhead logo intro.

[Nachtwulf]

Hook wasps now wasps due to similarity. Rylaks now tamable. New pet class? If so, can't you apply same logic and add to chimeras?
It's got ground anims, and in practice doesn't look at all like a Chim, hence the new family. (Muffinus)

[SylviaDragon]

On the whole "trying to only add new families relevant to the xpack," I do believe I saw a few sky screamers sneaking around in the data base. I think those pesky, rebellious trolls are lurking around in the xpack somewhere with their new flying pets. (after all, has there ever been an xpack without some troll themed uprising to quell?) So there is still hope!

[Thanøs]

Well there is still the Zandalari to deal with and their King Rastakhan. And what of the prophet Zul who predicted the cataclysm and the sinking of Zandalar isle? The island is apparently not sunk bu sinking and the King still sits the throne and has called for a meeting of the tribes. Hence why we see so many troll tribes during MoP. Things will get interesting for sure.

[Wain]

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, there are shaman players running everywhere using a transparent version of that new sandy wolf skin. So that explains that one!

No reason it couldn't be used for a wild beast, though. Unlike the shadow/fire ones it still looks natural. Would be great in a desert.

[Wain]

Well there is still the Zandalari to deal with and their King Rastakhan. And what of the prophet Zul who predicted the cataclysm and the sinking of Zandalar isle? The island is apparently not sunk bu sinking and the King still sits the throne and has called for a meeting of the tribes. Hence why we see so many troll tribes during MoP. Things will get interesting for sure.

There must always be a troll raid

It's a good point you brought up about non-Draenor situations, though. There are quite a few unusual things in the database that could well be explained by the fact that not everything this expansion is taking place on Draenor. At least three Azeroth-based dungeons are being revamped (Blackfathom and the two Razorfens) as well as new expansion instances taking place in Azeroth's Blackrock area.

[Nachtwulf]

The troll village (and its satellite) in Zangarmarsh always looked to me like they'd been there for a really long time. I dunno... trolls man. They're everywhere. Like roaches.

[Wain]

Monstrous Spineclaw confirmed. So pretty. That was the last Timeless one I needed to check.

[Rawr]

Did they fix pet stealth ??

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This is a speculation on my part, what if the reason Rylak is the new exotic pet is to show case it can fly when it use 'levitate'? Hook Wasp's unique ability was 'flutter'; levitate, and that's why they decided to replace with a beast that has both flying and ground animation. Having said, wtb tamable Kuchong and Pterrrordax that can 'levitate' because they both have flying animations.

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On the whole "trying to only add new families relevant to the xpack," I do believe I saw a few sky screamers sneaking around in the data base. I think those pesky, rebellious trolls are lurking around in the xpack somewhere with their new flying pets. (after all, has there ever been an xpack without some troll themed uprising to quell?) So there is still hope!

Maybe just like how Sylvanas 'employs' Valkyrs, with the fall of the Thunderking, Voljin 'employs' dinomancer? I would have a loregasm if Dinosaurs are added as part of the Darkspear's might.

[Wain]

Since rylaks are grounded, and also in light of finding tameable armoured versions, I retook the model shots for these guys and added the armoured version (including the original mount) as well.

[Rawr]

So no word on the stealth fix?

[Wain]

So no word on the stealth fix?

No idea sorry, but this thread is about new pets anyway

[Qraljar]

Well, it is hinted that there is an Old God on Draenor, and that the Arakkoa who later became corrupted fell out of favour with Terokk, because they preferred to follow this dark Old God. There are also the Arakkoa in TBC that tried to summon a C'Thun-esque creature.


Since Old Gods like to use a similar template, it could be that they look similar because they are both Old god creations.


Another possible hint towards the Old God on Draenor is the existence of the Scorpar, presumably a Scorpion-like humanoid species that is currently only vaguely alluded to. In fact, those Rock Flayers could be mutated Scorpar. And Scorpar could be an Old God race. Seeing as every insect race has Old God origins. Qiraji, Nerubians, Mantid. If it's an insect race, it is created by Old Gods. This has been a theme so far, and I'm sure they will stick with that theme.


So yes, the Hook Wasps, Scorpar and Ravagers could all be the creations of a Draenor Old God.

That wouldn't make sense though. The Black Dragons in Outland are free of corruption because there are no Old Gods out there, thus they don't hear the whispers and haven't gone mad like their brothers and sister black dragons did in Azeroth. They'd have to do a major retcon if they throw an Old God out there, especially since it was said the Old Gods only existed on Azeroth. Azeroth =/= Draenor. So I'd take these 'hints' with a huge grain of salt, though I'll do a little digging.

EDIT: Upon doing some digging, It's still solid that Old Gods are primarily Azeroth-based as I said before. However there was one that almost manifested in Outland. Keyword: Almost. It didn't happen for one reason or another, though that may be the one you were talking about with the Arrakoa. I never did that quest line myself so I didn't know about it.
http://wowpedia.org/Old_Gods

Anywhoozle, I'm tired and probably gonna get some sleep. XD Just wanted to throw my two cents cause I'm very fond of the draconic lore in WoW and would not be a happy camper if they suddenly messed up the stuff with the Black Dragons. I guess if it's the new Draenor, it could work since it's before the First War....it could work then but....hm....There's just a lot of variables....and wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff.

Eh, at worst, that seems like a fairly mild contradiction. At best, it can be made to fit just easily. Remember that it's only Sabellian and his dragons, and that we have no conclusive answer as to if anything might be creeping in their mind. Really, though. Even if not, then that wouldn't change much, because Old Gods are not interconnected entities. They are similar, they have similar ways of going about corrupting organisms. But they're not the same. As such, if a corrupted creature were to leave Azeroth to escape the whispers, that process wouldn't continue on another planet with an Old God through the sheer fact that there is an Old God there. The Old God would have to make a conscious decision to want to take over the corruption that those on Azeroth started with.


Then there's also the possibility that the Old God in our universe is already dead. Remember that the Arakkoa were trying to summon one. Something that only really happens when an Old God has perished and been pushed out of our reality and defeated. This means that, in the alternate universe where we're going, it's still alive and kicking, with Arakkoa, Scorpar, Ravagers and Hook Wasps as their minions and/or creations, still following it.


Either way. If you are to make the case that the existence of an Old God on Draenor is impossible simply because the Black Dragons are corrupted, then you have to make the case that this Old God would be in contact with the Azerothian Old Gods and would deliberately follow up on the corruption of the Black Dragons that the Azeroth Old Gods started with. We have no indication of that. None of the Old Gods on Azeroth, who would be even more connected, at any time, felt any need to follow up on what one of their brethren was doing if it perished. Yogg-Saron didn't take over the Qiraji, nor the Mantid. Nor did N'Zoth or any other currently unnamed Old God.


Otherwise you have to make the case that an Old God corrupts anything, and therefore the Black Dragons should fall to corruption again as they're just one of the victims who conveniently made it into that list and already had an Old God history. This is observably untrue, as Azeroth holds many life-forms that the Old Gods have left alone for now, to focus on others that could be of more use to them. This Old God just so happened to have other priorities, another focus, and left the Black Dragons on Draenor alone, which can easily happen.


As for it being said that there are only Old Gods on Azeroth? That's actually blatantly wrong, no offence.

Who is the arakkoa "master" that Isfar talks about? It is not Terokk...

There are more Old Gods than just the ones trapped on Azeroth. It takes a lot for them to become manifested on a physical plane, however; see the quest line in Shadowmoon Valley that ends with "Thwart the Dark Conclave" for more information.

and

We span the universe, as countless as the stars!

So.. eh, yeah.. I suppose.



Oh, and I know it won't be relevant by the time you see this, but sleep well! And night!



EDIT: My face when I finally realize I entered an off-topic discussion again: