Felfire Hawk

[Celibie]

It is clear why we can mount the green fire hawk now in the beta. This is going to be the reward mount for 250 mounts collected in game

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/423 ... Difficulty

[Lisaara]

I thought that it was the Emerald Drake?

[Ebonrook]

It was, but due to negative player response they changed it to the beryl firehawk. However, they're doing a poll on how to bring the green drake into the game – thus far Legacy raid drop and WoD faction mount are the top player choices. So, it'll be in somehow and somewhere at least!

[Lisaara]

Negative? I never saw anything negative. I saw lots of positive.

[Akyo]

Im glad for the change.
Another vanila model drake as a reward is (for me) kinda boring.

[Lisaara]

http://strawpoll.me/2321997/r

Found the poll

But yeah, there's a lot of people upset at this change. Many were looking forward to the Emerald Drake.

[Lupis]

I'm kind of confused, to be honest. If they go with a Legacy drop, or a Faction reward, this mount will be /easier/ to obtain than it would be as a 250 mount reward. Getting 250 mounts is no small task! But running an old raid or dungeon every day/every week? Or farming a bit of rep? That's not nearly so bad, considering that getting 250 mounts requires far, far more rep grinding and RNG luck!

[Krysteena]

It is a slight shame to those who really wanted an emerald drake buuut...the model is rather bleh (I could find a few problems and give examples, if necessary, which I don't think is.) unless they upped the model a *lot* more! it's not really suited for 250 mounts. I will agree with Junrei however. I only saw good feedback.

I'm hoping the drake will become a faction gained mount. Please don't go to the legendary raiders or whatever. I'll love youuu!

Either way...Felfire hawk even if I'm so far off 250 mounts, I best get my butt in gear. I shall get to 150 mounts by Draenor, and I'll be adding alystrazor to my mount grind soon enough and I'll be on ma way to a lovely green fire birdy! At least I'll be able to get hold of a firehawk, even if it takes time. The other two are a bit more closed off to me :/

When it says legacy drop, does that mean old content, as Lupis said? I'm having nightmares of only hardcore raiders with awesome gear and an awesome guild and an awesome legendary we pain or something getting them. I'd rather run old content every week honestly. Wether it's running old content or a rep grind I don't mind honestly. Then again, the hardcore raiders need rewards.

[SylviaDragon]

I am quite happy with the change. I was not exactly overwhelmed by the emerald drake but I was not upset with it either. I am glad they changed it though. all the other flights have mounts that are easy to obtain. black flight: 100% drop off raid boss. red flight: reputation farm you can finish in 5 min with a little bit of JP. bronze: 100% off of a heroic five man. blue flight: used to be a reasonable drop off of a heroic 5 man. now a low drop off any mode in Malygos; making it the hardest to come by but not impossible.

I think the fel hawk if a much more fitting reward for something as big as 250 mounts. its model is more up to date, its flashy and there are only two other colors in existence. to me it feels like a good choice.

I also felt sorry for all of the less crazy mount collectors and roll players out there. 250 mounts is a tough thing that takes years to build up to. the emerald drake is a long awaited thing that many players would rather just enjoy for its simplicity and or as something that adds to their personal character background. making it a 250 reward would push it out of the reach of many excited players. I'm sure we will get it in the game so I'm not upset about the change. hopefully it will be a reasonable boss drop or a faction reward so more players can enjoy it. and as mount collectors I am sure we will be farming that too. so there is no real loss in my eyes.

[Celibie]

personally I'm glad that were getting the beryl firehawk since i was so upset it didn't get put in game. another drake would be too unexciting since we have soooo many in the game already. There are only two fire hawks

[PorrasouxRex]

Just to clarify: The emerald drake is still being added in WoD. Just not by this achievement.

[Castile]

I also felt sorry for all of the less crazy mount collectors and roll players out there. 250 mounts is a tough thing that takes years to build up to. the emerald drake is a long awaited thing that many players would rather just enjoy for its simplicity and or as something that adds to their personal character background. making it a 250 reward would push it out of the reach of many excited players.

Hmm not really hard now considering how many rep mounts there are (plus many more that will be added in WoD). I think it could be done even without a bunch of rares tbh. You'd just have to grind the rep and alot of people whom I've spoken to ingame (no one here) that claim to be "mount crazy" actually miss alot of really easy to get mounts and just go for the special snowflake ones thinking thats where my numbers come from.

Argent Tournament for example gives you 14 (15 for paladins) mounts but it takes time and patience (not really hard now - the grp quests can be soloed). Buying all the gryphens/wyverns ppl tend to miss. The talbuks in Nagrand (excluding the 2 pvp ones), Tol Barads drake and land mount - just easy to grind stuff I find ppl miss. 250 now is not really a massive number, you'll find a decent chunk of ppl will have pretty close to that come release (i'm sure SB and Wain are already there! )

[Lupis]

I dunno- I've found that there are a heck of a lot of mounts that you really need to have that aren't so easy to get. I mean, yeah, AT gets you a good amount, but for the most part you need massive dedication to get 250. Lots of achievements, TONS of farming! AT alone takes months.

Compare that to possibly a single rep grind or a single weekly boss kill- and I think I'll take the rep grind.

[Azunara]

And I know a lot of previous complaints stemmed from the fact the emerald drake wasn't shiny or pretty. Green felfire hawk definitely ramps up the shiny factor, and it's a nice goal for people. The emerald drake makes sense as a more casual mount to obtain--the Azeroth drakes were all pretty easy to get. Makes sense Emerald is as well.

[Krysteena]

I also felt sorry for all of the less crazy mount collectors and roll players out there. 250 mounts is a tough thing that takes years to build up to. the emerald drake is a long awaited thing that many players would rather just enjoy for its simplicity and or as something that adds to their personal character background. making it a 250 reward would push it out of the reach of many excited players.

Hmm not really hard now considering how many rep mounts there are (plus many more that will be added in WoD). I think it could be done even without a bunch of rares tbh. You'd just have to grind the rep and alot of people whom I've spoken to ingame (no one here) that claim to be "mount crazy" actually miss alot of really easy to get mounts and just go for the special snowflake ones thinking thats where my numbers come from.

Argent Tournament for example gives you 14 (15 for paladins) mounts but it takes time and patience (not really hard now - the grp quests can be soloed). Buying all the gryphens/wyverns ppl tend to miss. The talbuks in Nagrand (excluding the 2 pvp ones), Tol Barads drake and land mount - just easy to grind stuff I find ppl miss. 250 now is not really a massive number, you'll find a decent chunk of ppl will have pretty close to that come release (i'm sure SB and Wain are already there! )

Off topic here, but I've always stayed away from the AT dailies. They're nasty, in my eyes. It'd supposed to take 3/4 months of dailies. And with some dailies...you get a free tour around Northrend to kiss frogs or something. 14 mounts is a good number and while I would start...3/4 months of dailies keeps me away.

I'm hoping, as suggested on another thread, the emerald drake comes from having a certain number of Azerothian drakes. Say, you have to have the black, blue, red, bronze and (possibly albino) to show you're worthy. Perhaps an armoured green drake for having the twilight, azure, blue, black, albino, bronze and red drake?

[Kurasu]

The most likely group, IMO, for the Emerald Drake to be part of would be one of the druid groups. Cenarion Circle has a lot of ways to farm for the rep, a few quests, and has no good rewards now that Vanilla is over and done with. I feel that putting it in there would be great. Not only that, it would encourage people to take Silithus seriously, as a lot of the quests there give CC rep.

That's my vote: Cenarion Circle rep for an Emerald Drake. Either purchased once you're Exalted, or given as part of the achievement for getting it Exalted.

[Arisia]

Ugh... I am so tired of people whinging until something announced is changed because it doesn't fit their own personal agenda. Gee, why not have the stupid firehawk that I honestly do NOT want as a rep grind or raid drop and keep the drake for 250... oh wait... its a stinkybad ollllld model, and hey, just because so many of us cheered and were thrilled we can finally have a green drake, let's just stick that into something either those of us who cannot raid cannot get once again OR a rep grind that will take forever and bore the crap out of everyone just because the loudest on the internet don't want a mount frame that is more than 2 years old...

Honestly, I am so tired of this happening.

[Lupis]

Again, really confused.

To get 250 mounts, you need to get a LOT of mounts. Even to get 200 at the moment you need to get all the Argent Tournament ones- and getting all of those takes... oh, three months of dailies? Boring, awful dailies that are out in the middle of nowhere.

And then all the other rep grind mounts that you likely want to get. Klaxxi, Shando Pan, Cenarian Circle, dare I say Skyguard? Netherwing, too! So throw a few more weeks on there of dailies and grinding.

Now add in PvP mounts that you need. Crafted mounts. Raid drops, achievement mounts, rare drops. That totals a LOT of work. That's 250 mounts- and they're not just going to fall into your lap. You need to really work to get them. All that for a single mount at the end.

Or, you could do a single rep farm or get a single rare drop. And you've got the mount you want, no string attached.

I just. I really don't understand why people are under the impression that 250 mounts is *easier* than 1 mount. Yeah, it might be a new raid drop- though the vote said "Legacy", which very much makes me think old raid/old dungeon. And a rep farm? Unless it's like Emperor Awfulfarm, that's not going to be that bad, seeing as you need to do a dozen rep farms to even get slightly close to 250 mounts.

Edit- Arisia, just because you don't want it, doesn't mean other people feel the same- that's *your* personal agenda speaking there!

[cowmuflage]

AT mounts are pretty easy nowadays to get. Not like back in Wotlk! Well I got them back when they where new and I did it again on my DK a few months back and it's a piece of piss now to do. That group quest is very soloable now thank god.

Personally I'm just glad they are using the Green felfire hawk!

[Lupis]

Oh, I know they're easy, they're just tedious! Sure, you can solo them, but doing them for three+ months still isn't very appealing, heh.