Gara

[Quiv]

If the next part did involve a group area, I would assume the other people would have a reason to be there as well (quests etc). However the more I think about it, the more I hope the next step doesn't require grouping. Not only for the reasons mentioned by others, but we start getting into conflicting agendas and just seems like a breeding ground for contention.

[Dakender]

Well sometimes getting a group together can be very difficult. I don't know how many people would be willing to help a hunter unless you paid them. That's if you're not in a guild where you are friend with guildies or have some other friends. Plus this is beta so you don't have access to all you guild buddies unless they have beta keys too.

what we did last night worked pretty good.. /join SolveGara chat channel. Until we get to live and have our guilds and friends to help, this seems the best way for everyone to get together. I know it saves the channel on both Horde and Alliance for Level 100 PVE server. Haven't done it on the leveling server cause I don't wanna ruin all the fun and newness of the leveling quests once it goes live.

[Imoogi]

Interesting thought I realized catching up somewhat last night after work. The items for the effigy were not lootable to me before I did the shadowberry part. And they are supposedly not lootable after. Also the spot to place the effigy only showed up after you have the effigy in your inventory. Maybe we can use this knowledge to our advantage. Did anyone kill the mob for the void lantern before they finished their effigy? And if so did it drop? What I think we should be focusing on is finding the things that change during each step.

[Quiv]

Interesting thought I realized catching up somewhat last night after work. The items for the effigy were not lootable to me before I did the shadowberry part. And they are supposedly not lootable after. Also the spot to place the effigy only showed up after you have the effigy in your inventory. Maybe we can use this knowledge to our advantage. Did anyone kill the mob for the void lantern before they finished their effigy? And if so did it drop? What I think we should be focusing on is finding the things that change during each step.

I will test this for science. The lantern has been 100% for me from those mobs after I did the effigy step, and I can't seem to get the effigy parts to drop for me once I did that step (wasn't sure if that was RNG though). Testing on fresh hunter, going to see if i can get lantern.

Edit: I confirmed what Moonone mentioned below this post, a hunter that has not done the effigy part can't loot a lantern.

[moonone]

just got in a shdwmn dung group - wiped a couple times - which made me think - yeah - this isn't it - you'd have to do however much of the dungeon without wiping more than once - I'd say that is a dead end for sure.

Think trying to find Shadowmoon areas are a possible priority
find an item or buff that lets us go completely into the void?

look back over what the dialogue was when Xan first comes. Mother O mentions that she was taken into void - fragments of her soul were "torn away" to be used at the burial grounds, any relevance? We know her soul is at rest now - but Gara's has been taken.
Soul Well anyone - lol

(would be funny if its in an old dungeon (which we could more than likely solo)

also - almost positive the lantern never dropped for me before I did effigy part - spent a good chunk of time up there after berry part. Was already looking for lantern - so I would have certainly noticed. Can't say I remember if any of the other items dropped previous to berry part - so before this last build.

trying to decide if we need to collect some more items again - semi doubt it - by the looks of what was found - we need to gain a buff - or just find a portal (entrance to void) , find Xan. Was wondering how fruitful it would be to revisit the areas we got the parts for effigy?

[Dakender]

Interesting thought I realized catching up somewhat last night after work. The items for the effigy were not lootable to me before I did the shadowberry part. And they are supposedly not lootable after. Also the spot to place the effigy only showed up after you have the effigy in your inventory. Maybe we can use this knowledge to our advantage. Did anyone kill the mob for the void lantern before they finished their effigy? And if so did it drop? What I think we should be focusing on is finding the things that change during each step.

WoW, you posted this while i was half way through typing it True, I did a test this morning by making a new horde toon and farming all the parts in a few zones on the way down to talk to Gara the first time. Nothing... Shadowberries did drop before i talked to her the first time.. so did part 1 and part 2 at the same time, then went back and all the parts for the effigy dropped the first time. Also doing the script to see what quests were finished or not from the awesome chart on page 13 before moving on to the next step

[jensketch]

I don't have an account on the petopia forums to post, so I'll say it here. Shadowmoon Burial Grounds guys.. A friend just finished it on heroic with the lantern buff and.. ill just stop there. We're not sure if it needs to be on heroic or not. Have fun!

From the WOW forums! I wish... the queues weren't so long and I also wish random groups wouldn't just bail... but we gotta try this!

[Lupen202]

Ugh. I had a feeling it was there but what a pain! . I'll try it on normal soon, but would need to do proving grounds for heroic.

Just don't use the lantern till the end though. At least I know that now.

[moonone]

that's gonna be rough - lots of wiping on last boss - wonder if you can defeat him and then use lantern - otherwise....

plus if you cant get a group that can defeat him in heroic - like happened to me already - your locked out for the day - qued for normal - will post if It works there

[Toothy]

Well sometimes getting a group together can be very difficult. I don't know how many people would be willing to help a hunter unless you paid them. That's if you're not in a guild where you are friend with guildies or have some other friends. Plus this is beta so you don't have access to all you guild buddies unless they have beta keys too.

what we did last night worked pretty good.. /join SolveGara chat channel. Until we get to live and have our guilds and friends to help, this seems the best way for everyone to get together. I know it saves the channel on both Horde and Alliance for Level 100 PVE server. Haven't done it on the leveling server cause I don't wanna ruin all the fun and newness of the leveling quests once it goes live.

I don't really mean right now, since we are all trying to figure it out, but later on once WoD goes live and then things start to settle down once Gara's mystery has been solved.

So how do you unlock the heroic version of that dungeon? Maybe some of us can group together, unlock heroic, and then try it. Also do you have to finish the dungeon on normal first? I guess this works because you can just que for dungeon finder and don't have to form your own group.

[Quiv]

Yeah if we don't need the lantern until after the last boss is defeated, then losing the buff won't be a prob. More trial and error. I queued (along with probably about 50 other hunters lol).

Wish I knew how to tank or heal :\

[Toothy]

I know how to tank/ heal on monk, so I can make a premade level 100 on one of the 100pve content servers, and quickly set up my buttons. But should I make alliance or horde? Let's make a group! I'll say my battletag if anyone else wants to join. Just have to decide which faction, seem to be a big mix of both in forums.

[moonone]

remember if your tring for heroic - which supposedly works - still not sure for normal - then you need to go get silver proving grounds done - you can port to there by void guy in your garrison -

12 min in Q for normal - nobody else is in Q yet :/

also gonna suck for those not 100 - need to be 100 to get silver proving grounds and also to Q for a heroic

[jensketch]

Been in Q for normal for 22 minutes!

Also the bulk of us are on the Leveling Server 01 -- come there and /join SolveGara!! Bendak and Darkbrew are there!

I'm trying to decide which premade to make - I can tank and heal but haven't tried either in WoD yet. I don't want to help queue only to fail miserably.

[moonone]

wish the channel was cross faction

[Toothy]

wish the channel was cross faction

yea my person on leveling server is horde

[Quiv]

I don't have an account on the petopia forums to post, so I'll say it here. Shadowmoon Burial Grounds guys.. A friend just finished it on heroic with the lantern buff and.. ill just stop there. We're not sure if it needs to be on heroic or not. Have fun!

From the WOW forums! I wish... the queues weren't so long and I also wish random groups wouldn't just bail... but we gotta try this!

Are the people that have already done it going to show what happened you think? Don't want to put it out in open to spoil it for those who don't want to be spoiled, but I don't care to be spoiled.

[moonone]

might only be one or two people so far - rest of us are sitting in Q - wish the heroic I was in earlier was better - we wiped 6 times and I bailed - wouldn't have mattered used up my lanterns (which is why I finally left) - probably more people in Q for alli though - horde dungeon groups have been really slow to start on Beta in my experience.

/cry - just had a group form up - and one dps didn't Q in

[Lupen202]

I really really hope that it can be done on normal. Such a pain to find a group as is, and normal is difficult as is. Not to mention proving grounds isn't a walk in the park for a premade with "meh" gear.

[Toothy]

is the proving grounds the coliseum thing?