Killing Rare Tamables

[Ungoro]

Some of these stories where all you can do is emotes to get the attention of a hordie are very similiar to when i tamed Echeyakee on my dwarf sometimes last year. Kind of off topic but when the tauren saw me there and i'm sure he knew why a lone dwarf hunter would be that far from civilisation, but I still threw out the most suitable emotes without a pet being called "letmetame" or echeyakeeplease". He summoned the beautiful white lion and let me tame without any troubles.

Now I want to somehow make this post relevant, but i've already stated my views above...

[Adam-Savage]

Altogether too much hostility in this thread.

Keep in mind that servers are different and have different populations, so a player's actions on one server might be considered differently than they would be on another.

I agree. I think it should be closed before it really gets out of hand. It's not getting better if anything the hostility is increasing.

[Vephriel]

I think everyone's got what they wanted to say off their chests now, so hopefully the intensity can start to defuse. I won't close the thread due to the argument, but if it continues to get out of hand I may have to do so.

Let's keep it friendly guys. I know strong opinions are difficult to debate without emotional levels rising, but I think all in all the community here is forgiving enough to let things go.

[Victorelle]

well... I never find rare tamables... if I do then I ask my friends... then I look up hunters in the area... if none the nsadly I kill them... I dont like to kill them tho at all

[Gumballs]

Oh no, I didn't mean to start a thread that would cause an argument. It's nice to see everyones opinions on this though.. as long as it is civilized. Thanks for not locking the thread Vephriel, I would have hated to come home to see everyone's replies but have it locked!

I can honestly say that I wouldn't kill any of the Scholozar rares just because of how sought after they are and the horror stories I've heard of them. Especially Krush... I love him. And it's good to know skoll and gondria are also not achievement rares so I don't kill them thinking they are.

[Slickrock]

Altogether too much hostility in this thread.

Keep in mind that servers are different and have different populations, so a player's actions on one server might be considered differently than they would be on another.

This is part of it. Someone who leveled on a gank-heavy PVP server would have a very different outlook than someone on a more mild server like Nesingwary. Not that there's anything inheritly wrong with either type, it's just very different. Another factor is what classes a person has played before. Some of you have always played hunters, some started with rogues...

You can also blame Blizz for it. Not only did they put in achievements for killing rares, but they put more loot on them as well. Blizz is encouraging people to hunt them. You going to expect a DK or warrior not to swoop down for an easy kill worth 50+G? Or even another hunter for that matter.. old-world rares are a different story, as they are not worth stopping to kill (unless you are a jerk in Praetorian Alliance).

Faction is part of it too. I've seen just as many cross-faction jerks as I have that have followed the "brotherhood of hunters".

So would I kill an old-world rare for the heck of it? No. (Except for Zarcotyl, I still have a score to settle there).

Would I kill an outland tameable rare? Only for the achievement, if no hunters were in the area that wanted him.

Would I kill a Northrend tameable rare? Only when no hunters were around to tame them, and then only for the achievement or when they were in a high-traffic time where they were likely to go down fast. (As I said before, I've stolen the kill on Skol before from a DK and warrior).

I don't judge people who won't kill them, but I won't judge hunters that would kill them, providing they give other hunters a chance...

[Teigan]

Except for Zarcotyl, I still have a score to settle there

We need a support group. Victims of Zaricotl Anonymous.

[cowmuflage]

whats a Zarcotyl? I tryed looking it up in wowwiki but chould not find it :S

[Slickrock]

whats a Zarcotyl? I tryed looking it up in wowwiki but chould not find it :S

pardon my poor spelling...

http://www.wow-petopia.com/html/mobs/mob_zaricotl.html

[Slickrock]

Except for Zarcotyl, I still have a score to settle there

We need a support group. Victims of Zaricotl Anonymous.

He was a bastard at the time... if he didn't get you, he'd back you into a pack of 6 coyotes...

[cowmuflage]

Oh ok i could see how he could be a dick. Hes nice looking i've allways liked the rocs too bad i like my basic buzzard from Mulgore more XD

[Kalliope]

Altogether too much hostility in this thread.

Keep in mind that servers are different and have different populations, so a player's actions on one server might be considered differently than they would be on another.

This is part of it. Someone who leveled on a gank-heavy PVP server would have a very different outlook than someone on a more mild server like Nesingwary. Not that there's anything inheritly wrong with either type, it's just very different. Another factor is what classes a person has played before. Some of you have always played hunters, some started with rogues...

Ha, yes.

Like I *know* that the next person to come along on my server is far more likely to kill a pet for sport or an achievement than be a fellow pet lover. I would much prefer helping fellow hunters find the pets they love, but in all honesty, I just don't trust most people on my server. :/ I'd do what I could for a hunter I felt was legitimately hunting for a pet, but I'm very much disinclined to leave a pet to be murdered the moment my back's turned. My loyalty is to the pets above the hunters, simply because the pixels are more trustworthy than the majority of players on my server.

I always /luck a hunter who's clearly camping a particular spawn point, though.

[cowmuflage]

random post is random when you think bout it is why anit there any devilsuar queens? All this talk of rares made me think of king mosh and krush who are both rare.

[Gozu]

I feel no drive to ever kill cliff jumper, araga, humar, even aotona (cute) - to me they are useful beautiful animals that every hunter, low or high level, can be proud of. They are available to all MM, Surv or BM. But rare exotics I don't hesitate to kill and loot. I pay my monthly bill, I'm not sorry for all the spirit beasts and krushes I've killed.

That being said I would never kill an animal while someone is trying to tame it. That is just low and sick headed. When I see a rare tame happening I always /cheer for the hunter horde or alli.

PS. the last time I saw aotona in the wild I just stood for a minute watching her fly, so pretty. A hunter dropped down with a nameless pet and I though "Yay she's found her rare & is going to tame it!" BOOM she kills it loots. Left me looking like hm Evil thing is that she saw me there I could have been about to tame but she didn't care. Sometimes I wish I could kill my own faction.

[Kryte]

Except for Zarcotyl, I still have a score to settle there

We need a support group. Victims of Zaricotl Anonymous.

I've never had particularly bad luck with Zaricotl. My lowbies always came upon him when he was well-fed, such that I actually used to think he was neutral towards Alliance.

[Acherontia]

RE: Zaricotl, I distinctly remember three lowbies spending approxiamately 20 minutes killing him. Yes we had 70 alts (TBC times) but it would have taken too long to get them, and we were all necessary. I was on my hunter, just spamming frost traps and running in cir--well, squares--around the edges; my guildmate & buddy troll priest was healing, and my husband on his warlock iirc, was wanding and missing most of the hits. Pet kept dying, I was trying to alternate aggro on me/pet stopping to res, and ONLY using auto-shot due to lack of Viper aspect.

I also remember an epic'd out White War Talbuk 70 something or other running up, watching us and leaving us >.> It DID eventually go down, but I've had enough terrible runins with him that I do have respect. It would probably just be hatred rather than respect if we hadn't gotten him down that once though

To be fair, generally he doesn't jump me--I usually see him and just can't help attempting the challenge. Once or twice, I've gotten away with my lowbie little life!

[Kayb]

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Seriously, you asked hunters, you asking in general, you waited awhile to see if anyone was around. No one was around, you killed it. Its no biggie. It comes back. I really really wouldn't worry about it.

[Sarayana]

PS. the last time I saw aotona in the wild I just stood for a minute watching her fly, so pretty. A hunter dropped down with a nameless pet and I though "Yay she's found her rare & is going to tame it!" BOOM she kills it loots. Left me looking like hm Evil thing is that she saw me there I could have been about to tame but she didn't care. Sometimes I wish I could kill my own faction.

How do you know she saw you? You're making an assumption about something you can't know - how far she zooms out, her camera angle, heck even how far down/up she's turned her graphics. You have to be careful about making that assertion.

That being said, it does sound like she didn't stop to check if anyone was about to tame the bird... Which in itself isn't a nice thing to do but, really, not very different from what most people would do. "Mob's not tagged, I'll tag it before someone else does." Heck, I've done that myself with non-tameable rares. I want the kill, I'm not chancing another person tagging it. *shrug*

[Slickrock]

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Seriously, you asked hunters, you asking in general, you waited awhile to see if anyone was around. No one was around, you killed it. Its no biggie. It comes back. I really really wouldn't worry about it.

^^^^

[Tirryna]

personally, I can't find myself killing a rare tame. The thought of myself killing Articus is unthinkable. My druid BF asked if he could kill it, I said "I'd better be logged off or I'll gank your ass" (though you technically can't gank on feathermoon). The thing is. I remember the stress I was under when I was waiting for Articus, and everytime I saw a non-hunter stop around the spawn area I was camping, I's start shaking. My BF was all "Don't get your expectations high. People will think a rare getting tamed is an easy target"... So when I camp or tame rares, I'm under constant panic.

One girl said she tamed a rare to let it go safely so it wouldn't get killed... sounds like something I'd do. If only you could give your pets to other people....

To be honest, I'd be very emotional if I saw a beautiful rare killed before my eyes (even if I wasn't going to tame them", I'd hug their corpse and move on... Praying to GOD no one was camping to tame them...Camping is tedious! (Camped two days STRAIGHT for Articus. When I was tired, my BF would sign in as me to stand watch)...And YES... excitement and panic runs through you when you tame a rare, especially if you spot any players on your tracking