MM Getting Pet back - new Alpha build
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And Tinker.Zulmalakhan wrote:this is awesome, now a hunter really CAN be everything he was supposed to be, dark ranger, axe thrower, spear thrower, marksman, beast master, shadow hunter, the whole nine yards , blizzard has really outdone themselves with this expack, they are really listening to the community, now if we could only get skyscreamers and rocs and dreadravens tameable, especially skyscreamers
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When they first announced it, I was pretty disappointed to have the choice taken away from me. As a hunter that raids, the other talents in the tier are just not worth taking over Lone Wolf. It hurts me as a huge part of the appeal of this class is the pets, but it's something I feel obligated to do to help progress. (Which is the same reason I'm MM. BM is my favorite spec, but I do better numbers as MM except on cleave fights) It is not a talent I would take otherwise, and I suspect this is how many others felt.
Hopefully they'll be able to balance the new talent tier so the other options are somewhat appealing. I really miss raiding with my pet
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"Get up close and fight WITH your pet"
"Stand back and COMMAND your pet, and fight from ranged"
"SNIPER" (Though I still think they should have gotten the gun.)
Giving MM back the pet seems... ehh... like caving to shut people up. Which sometimes can be good (Points to Haiti) But sometimes... ehh...
Not for... nothing but MM haven't been using pets for a while. I never saw MM running around with pets in the last expansion. They went MM to get the DPS boost from lone wolf and never looked back.
That's not to say that MM hunters aren't 'Hunter's' they just express it in different ways.
Now it's "Weak gun+Strong pet" vs "Strong bow+weakpet" and that just doesn't 'Live the fantasy:" to me
Survival at least is significantly different and innovative.
With the 'add back the pet' i will say it might be the only way I'd play MM now.... because I love my pets. I __________HATE______________ The BM Artifact.. so if I can go MM and get the Bow+A pet....
I'm going to have to weigh it. MM+Bow+Pet vs BM my fave and long running spec.. with Fugly gun, but with added shockdog.
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That news doesn't surprise me in the slightest. The whole reason for dropping the pet from an endgame POV is to min/max better. Letting marks hunters have their pets back allows personal preference (at a dps loss) and maybe some rare situational usage.Junrei wrote:I kinda preferred one spec not having a pet, but I understand why people were upset. Unfortunately, from what I've seen in FB groups, Lone Wolf is still pulling ahead of the pet MM
Having the option of a pet won't change things for people who really want to max out. Having no pet will almost always be more practical for mix-maxing simply because there's an inbuilt damage loss from pet pathing. But for those who like playing marks with a pet and don't mind the slight dps loss, the option is now there again.
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I am happy they announced this, I might actually try legion now.Junrei wrote:I kinda preferred one spec not having a pet, but I understand why people were upset. Unfortunately, from what I've seen in FB groups, Lone Wolf is still pulling ahead of the pet MM
For me personally it doesn't really matter if petless mm is pulling ahead i will mostly relying on LFR and just some questing anyway but with some of the surv skilled added to mm it will at least feel somehow familiar to my old trusty surv hunter.
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I can't respect the attitude that doesn't want others having the option to play differently.
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Yeah, unfortunately, ever since the concept of hunters having no pets was introduced, this is a big choice for hunters: roll with no pet in raids to be competitive or risk not getting taken by higher tier groups/be content with lower raiding tiers. Again, this really only impacts the middlecore players, since hardcore players will already do whatever it takes to min/max and casual players are going to do what's fun for them regardless. (Reasons I've been casual upon my return? You'd better believe it.)Junrei wrote:If all you're doing is LFR, yeah, it likely won't matter. but if you plan on raiding beyond LFR, it's quite possible you may have to be petless if they keep it as is. It's still Alpha so I take it all with a grain of salt.
Basically, so long as Lone Wolf is an option, this is undoubtedly going to be a problem for endgame hunters.
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See, I don't understand the attitudes of people upset that they're allowing MORE OPTIONS. Don't want to play with a pet? Then don't; that's great for you! Enjoy MM but still want your buddy by your side? Then play that way too! Like, unless you're really super hardcore into endgame, it's not going to matter much. Do whatever makes you happiest. More options should never be considered a bad thing; it's not like they're taking away petless MM for those who enjoy that playstyle, and it's still the tip-top of the charts so I don't understand the complaining.Quiv wrote:Assuming all is tuned correctly, I don't see why having options wouldn't put smiles on faces all around. Considering how contentious losing the pet was, having the option is a win/win for all personal preferences. Someone playing MM without a pet doesn't impede on my enjoyment of MM with a pet, nor does my enjoyment of a pet invalidate their preference for going petless. Both are fine because options are good!
I can't respect the attitude that doesn't want others having the option to play differently.
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Yeah. And believe me. I know how raiding hunters feel about that. Remember that lovely Claws a Shirvallah talent druids have that was freakin' rad? Completely flippin' USELESS if you plan to do just about anything beyond LFR and it ticks me off cause I find the other two talents to be boring as hell for alternatives. However, if I wanna raid competitively, I've no choice but to take Bloody Claws. *headdesk*Kalliope wrote:Yeah, unfortunately, ever since the concept of hunters having no pets was introduced, this is a big choice for hunters: roll with no pet in raids to be competitive or risk not getting taken by higher tier groups/be content with lower raiding tiers. Again, this really only impacts the middlecore players, since hardcore players will already do whatever it takes to min/max and casual players are going to do what's fun for them regardless. (Reasons I've been casual upon my return? You'd better believe it.)Junrei wrote:If all you're doing is LFR, yeah, it likely won't matter. but if you plan on raiding beyond LFR, it's quite possible you may have to be petless if they keep it as is. It's still Alpha so I take it all with a grain of salt.
Basically, so long as Lone Wolf is an option, this is undoubtedly going to be a problem for endgame hunters.
But yeah, I'm glad the option is there at least.
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Ugh, that really sucks. Hopefully that will be remedied in Legion. I haven't been following druid news; have there been any changes?Junrei wrote:Yeah. And believe me. I know how raiding hunters feel about that. Remember that lovely Claws a Shirvallah talent druids have that was freakin' rad? Completely flippin' USELESS if you plan to do just about anything beyond LFR and it ticks me off cause I find the other two talents to be boring as hell for alternatives. However, if I wanna raid competitively, I've no choice but to take Bloody Claws. *headdesk*
But yeah, I'm glad the option is there at least.
I wish that class balance worked in such a way that all choices would be equally viable for all classes to be equally effective, but that's a virtually impossible goal - and not just in this game.
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