Losing Hati in Next Expansion

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If we lose our artifact Titanstrike would you still want the second pet in some form?

Passive ability for Beast Master Spec "Memory of Hati" Retain Hati outside the Artifact
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34%
Say Good Bye to Hati
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Have Hati as a BM Hunter only none combat pet for appearances only
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16%
Other ______.
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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Teigan » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:36 pm

peanutbuttercup wrote:Getting him to attack isn't my issue. Watching him aggro everything while very slowly trotting towards the target, only to finally make it there when it drops dead, is.

I didn't even realize this could happen but Hati aggroed a mob during pet battling yesterday. I came out of pet battle to find myself in combat, with Hati at half health staring blankly ahead, while a mob chewed on his hind end. Why is he a valid target for attack while I'm phased out? That's just poor programming.

This happened to me the other day too, except that it actually pulled me out of the pet battle, and totally screwed up my UI somehow. It never has before, which I found odd. There used to be this problem when pet battles first came out, but obviously it was with regular pets, not Hati, cause there was no Hati then.

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Shelassa » Mon May 01, 2017 3:23 am

The more time I spend playing BM, the more I want to get rid of Hati.

Not so much mechanical issues, although they are present despite macros and attempts at careful micro-managing, but mostly the feeling of the specialisation altogether. For me, BM was always about the Hunter and their (one) loyal companion, Spirit Bond, two halves of one, 50/50, all that. In Legion that feeling of bonding and fellowship is completely gone for me. Perhaps unfairly, but somehow it all ended up associating with Hati, even if problems go way further, like Legendaries having what was once baseline :D

Though, admittedly, even if in current state BM had "lone wolf"-esque talent, empowering the pet at cost of Hati returning to the gun or something, I doubt I can play it anyway :|

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Novikova » Tue May 02, 2017 6:03 pm

Honestly, I mostly wish Hati weren't so - erratic. Sometimes he goes back and forth between mobs spamming swipe uselessly. Sometimes he does nothing. Sometimes he runs around the corner to let me know there's mobs there.

Sometimes he barrels into mobs.

And sometimes he feels like a nut.

I adore Hati in theory. I love having a free lightning pupper. But half the time, he's kinda useless during the fight.
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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Nachtwulf » Tue May 02, 2017 8:52 pm

I just get so enraged by him anymore. It's not even his behavior in combat. It's that whenever I'm trying to do anything, anything at all, he's standing on it.

I have never in my life yelled 'JESUS FECKIN' CHRIST GET OFFA MY DICK' so much as I have at Hati.

I don't even have a dick. But if I did, Hati would be standing on it.

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Sukurachi » Wed May 03, 2017 12:02 am

Have you tried having Rexxar (I think that's his name?) the Hunter class hall follower as a bodyguard?
Not only does he stand on top of anything you're trying to interact with, he also NEVER FRICKEN' DISMOUNTS!!!!!! The jerk sits on his mount blocking half your screen, even when you yourself are walking.

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Nachtwulf » Wed May 03, 2017 12:53 am

For a (short) time yes, I did have Rexxar as a bodyguard. Me, him, my pet, his pet, Hati, sometimes 1-2 other of his pets...

I was like 'I am not a player, I am a goddamn raid group!' and unequipped him as a follower. @___@

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Rawr » Wed May 03, 2017 2:08 am

This is why I use the new one as my bodyguard, no issues talking to NPCs while mounted :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by jna3773 » Sun Sep 03, 2017 11:37 am

To be very honest, from the moment we got our Titanstrike weapon I never liked having a 'forced' second pet which can't be controlled like a normal pet.
I'm more in favor that it should be optional to have two pets, not mandatory, like you can choose 'lone wolf' if you don't want any pets.
But just 1 pet beside me is what I prefer and is more in tune with my fantasy of a hunter.
And I like to play BM very very much, I don't want to switch to MM or SV for just 1 pet.
Anyway, that is my opinion. I respect everybody who want to have permanent 2 pets, but it's just not for me or at least it will take a long time to get used to it.

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Wain » Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:04 am

I've noticed since 7.3 that "lazy Hati syndrome" has been even worse. There are a lot of times I have to force him into combat or he'll just sit there. I've never been able to find a reproducible method for it, however. Are other people also noticing this? Either way it's really reinforcing my hope we don't have anything like Hati in 8.0. I think it's really poor that it's now a year into Legion and this major feature of our class is still so glitchy. They simply aren't able to implement it correctly, yet.
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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Dewclaw » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:45 am

Wain, yes I am having that issue too. :(

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Nachtwulf » Mon Sep 04, 2017 1:53 pm

Oh good, it's not just me. I've been having to use BM because Argus is just too damn cruel on SV, and derp!Hati is a constant issue.

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Krysteena » Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:33 pm

I've also noticed several times that Hati will just sit there. Thing is, if I multi-shot and trigger the pet aoe cleave, Hati will cleave while stood next to my hunter, but he won't actually run to the mobs to damage them. He just starts clawing at my poor hunter and I will have to send him in manually.

Typically, by the time he gets there, the mobs are dead. He's just here for moral support at this point.

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Xella » Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:52 pm

My hunter's only been played for about an hour since the patch, to help a friend through the Stormheim invasion yesterday. I'm reasonably certain Hati wasn't involved in 50% of the fights in that <hour.

On the flip side (and this might be a mac-only issue, and it's purely aesthetic), my hati mog (GSW/Karoma) is the only pet I have that doesn't go all white when I pop Titan's Thunder, so there's that.
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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Wain » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:25 am

I just created a new bug report for it:

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20758808764#1
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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Niabi » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:38 am

I never particularly enjoyed having Hati around but I do enjoy the concept having two active pets out as a BM hunter.

I would much rather prefer if it could be two pets from our own stables ... one we select and another selected randomly by the AI gods --- or even better, both pets be of our choosing from the stables.

I will not miss Hati if he is removed after Legion and I would not look forward to having another "Hati" pet forced upon BMs in the next expansion.

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Nachtwulf » Tue Sep 05, 2017 12:02 pm

I have a lot of things dropping texture right now and I'm hoping it gets fixed soonish. I can't even use Lightning Paw because he never has a texture, he's just a dull gray cut-out in the world.

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Sukurachi » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:54 pm

Well, being in a minority here, I don't want to lose Hati.. in the sense that I like having two pets for my BM hunter. It feels right. I want Blizzard to repair the 2nd pet so that it can actually FUNCTION as an effective pet.

However, having two pets from your stables... I don't know if I'd be happy with that. I often mog Hati to match my normal pet, to have two of the same. If we can use pets from our stables as a "2nd pet" then would that entail having to tame two of any pet to have two of them as active pets?

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Valnaaros » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:23 am

I would like for there to still be a second pet for BM, but have the issues fixed. I also wouldn't mind if it is a pet of our choosing from the stables. There is a fair chance that BM will have two pets moving forward, and Blizz isn't against the idea, seeing as they are leaning towards doing the same for Demo.

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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Wain » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:35 am

Nachtwulf wrote:I have a lot of things dropping texture right now and I'm hoping it gets fixed soonish. I can't even use Lightning Paw because he never has a texture, he's just a dull gray cut-out in the world.
You're on a Mac, aren't you? :) And a slightly older one, like I am. I'm having the same issues. The Mac forum is full of reports of it :(
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Re: Losing Hati in Next Expansion

Unread post by Nachtwulf » Wed Sep 06, 2017 11:23 am

Yeah, Wain, I am. And it's yelling at me to upgrade my OS, which I've been stalling on doing largely because it will make my version of Adobe CS stop working. I'm stuck on 'crappy water texture' and 'textures missing' probably because they really REALLY REALLY want me to stop using an OS that relies on OpenGL. But I can't right now. So I just... deal, I guess.

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