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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Teigan » Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:54 pm

I had a dream that I tamed one of those giant isopod things....it was glorious!

Anyway, I wish the NR style yetis were tameable. I too would love to have an ape-like pet that didn't look as horrible as the gorillas or monkeys. I can't stand either. The monkeys due to the way they move and the gorillas due to the fact they have one polygon that they share amongst the entire population. But, I actually didn't know yetis were considered intelligent as a race and had hoped they'd someday be tameable. Huh. Sad, but interesting. But, hey, just look at raptors. They're clearly intelligent, have civilizations of a sort....

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Vephriel » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:11 pm

I'm not a huge fan of gorillas, but even I think the Northrend/Pandaria yeti models would be a great addition to the family.

And honestly, when it comes down to it, Blizzard could flip a switch tomorrow and make them tameable and no one would bat an eye really. We can debate the logistics all we want, but at the end of the day I just...don't believe they put as much thought into it as we do haha. If a model looks and feels right it may just happen, we have all sorts of exceptions already. I don't think tameable yetis would hurt anyone or even be a major breach of lore. It would be nice to see them around more, in my opinion. :)

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Valnaaros » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:30 pm

Raptors are considered very intelligent, yes, but we don't know if they are sapient or just very smart. They can build very crude huts/nests, and are capable of creating a primitive form of jewelry. But that doesn't make them a sapient race. Yetis has been shown to be sapient and have actually spoken Common, as I have said. Though I'm not sure whether Blizz really, really thinks about the logistics of a creature when they consider making it tamable, I doubt they would miss the fact that Yetis can speak. Blizz has said that they do read Wowpedia quite frequently when going about their work.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Wain » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:24 pm

Based solely on the model, the knuckle-walking yeti variant could easily have become a beast. But Blizzard have always racially equated it with humanoid yetis, and when they are added as beasts they’re usually corrected later to be humanoids, so it seems Blizzard really wants it that way and it’s unlikely that will change now. A modified version of the model could form the basis for an awesome gorilla, though.

As for raptors wearing feathers and ornaments, I wonder if that was originally intended or if it was just another case of things being attached to the model for racial reasons and it being not worth the hassle of modifying them for the wild, like braids on oxen and yaks and owlcats, and creepy nelf ears on the old storm crows. Either way, it’s part of lore now. It’s something that should be much easier to modify in future models as the artists are increasingly adding geosets that can be switched off at the appearance level, like horns on Argus talbuks. Future beasts could be configured to display ornament for domestic beasts and hide it for wild ones, all on the same model.
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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Valnaaros » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:36 pm

I agree, Wain. It is possible that Raptors were originally designed that way due to the Trolls. Blizz's tech was very limited back in Vanilla, and so they may have not wanted to design two separate textures (jewelry and non-jewelry) for all raptor colors. They may have started, as seen with the green, non-jewelry variant, but never finished.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Teigan » Mon Nov 13, 2017 12:44 am

Where do yetis speak Common? I missed that and I'm really curious now!

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Valnaaros » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:09 am

In Northrend, one of the Yetis (in Storm Peaks, I believe) yells at you in Common. Seeing as he is just a normal Yeti, it has been deduced that all Yetis are capable of speaking. Wowpedia even lists their language as Common.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Qraljar » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:17 am

Vephriel wrote:I'm not a huge fan of gorillas, but even I think the Northrend/Pandaria yeti models would be a great addition to the family.

And honestly, when it comes down to it, Blizzard could flip a switch tomorrow and make them tameable and no one would bat an eye really. We can debate the logistics all we want, but at the end of the day I just...don't believe they put as much thought into it as we do haha. If a model looks and feels right it may just happen, we have all sorts of exceptions already. I don't think tameable yetis would hurt anyone or even be a major breach of lore. It would be nice to see them around more, in my opinion. :)
This. I would honestly like to see the more knuckledragging (like the WoD challenge mode mounts) type made tameable eventually. I'm not going to worry too much about the logistics, as Vephriel noted. It's always been muddy waters, really, the whole notion of one creature being a representative of the entire species when they use a human language.

In the end, it looks like Blizzard wants to keep them humanoid for now, so I won't complain about that either. I'm not a huge supporter of them, though. They'd be a cool addition, especially if they became part of the gorilla family, which already has very little option. But I wouldn't lose sleep over it not happening.
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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Razzy » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:33 pm

Like Wain said, I think the knuckle walking yeti could very easily be reskinned and slightly modified into a new gorilla model. I wouldn't mind seeing the yetis become tameable, either.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by evil950510 » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:10 pm

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Either corrupted or updated Silithid models labeled as mounts, but may have tameable versions add in game too.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Valnaaros » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:15 pm

Posts in regards to 7.3.5 are in a thread over in the Pet Discussion section :)

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by GormanGhaste » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:47 pm

Eee, I want that dark silithid as a mount...although its body is so tilted, I'm unsure if I am up to the challenge.
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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Qraljar » Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:55 pm

Was looking over some Blizzcon zone videos and found some things.

Since it's a person running around and not really zooming in, they're obviously not highly detailed pictures, but they give some indication.

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Looks like gorillas, much like hyenas and tarantulas, are getting a much-needed upgrade.
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Still can't quite get over how good those new lizards look.
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Indeed looks like we got some updated vultures:
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Sadly, the player used the map and sped past the tarantulas
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so I couldn't get any better shots than these. Not much can be seen, but two things that seem verifiable to me: 1) the texture resolution is far higher .. obviously.

And 2) they seem to be working off the old design, exaggerated chelicerae and all, so they'll probably update throughout the old world, too.

Can't wait until beta arrives to see the new models properly, haha.
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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Vephriel » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:25 pm

Gasp, thank you for those shots Qraljar! I've been hoping for even a glimpse. So pleased that we're finally getting another proper tarantula!! :D

I'm so excited about the big lizards, and wow the vultures look fantastic! That's the best shot of the new vulture I've seen so far, you can really see the details well.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Valnaaros » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:32 pm

I'm very excited about the Gorillas! Have been wanting an update for them for a long time :D

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Vephriel » Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:37 pm

Qraljar wrote:
Can't wait until beta arrives to see the new models properly, haha.
Same, I am chomping at the bit to see all the new datamined models. Legion beta started in May last year I believe? I hope we don't have to wait that long.. D:

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Valnaaros » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:35 pm

I would guess a month after 7.3.5 is deployed.

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Talihawk » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:14 pm

New vultures are looking cool! It's very exciting to see glimpses of new stuff!

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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Wain » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:15 pm

Wow, thanks Qraljar! Those are very nicely spotted. :) I really need to get a BfA speculation page up and running. Mind if I use some shots from here if I do?

Those models look beautiful. I especially like the true-to-form vulture update. It’s great gorillas are finally getting some love, though the clumped hair makes it look like some got stuck in their fur. Sorry, I probably shouldn’t have said that. ;)
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Re: Battle for Azeroth creatures

Unread post by Krysteena » Thu Dec 14, 2017 4:37 am

Oh, those vultures in particular look fantastic!

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