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So, who liked it, and who disliked it?

I'm an Avatar series die-hard fan IRL, so the movie was really, really, really disappointing for me.




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1) How Katara and Sokka (which in the movie is pronounced "soak-a" instead of "sock-a"...) find Aang (which is pronounced "ong" instead of "ayng" in the movie...) is wrong. In the series, Katara is yelling at Sokka and inadvertently waterbends Aang's sphere thingy out of the iceberg. Then, they break him out. They were not seal-something fishing and found a bubble under a lake.
2) After like a minute of the movie, Aang is captured by Zuko (who demands that the village bring out the elderly). On the ship, Iroh (pronounced ee-row instead of eye-row) gives Aang a test to find out if he's the Avatar. This never happened in the series. The monks tested Aang while he was at the Southern Air Temple in the series, and while on the ship, Aang was held prisoner but fought Zuko and escaped. While attempting to flee the ship, Zuko grabs a hold of Aang's foot and drags him back down. After being knocked into the water, Aang's Avatar state is triggered and he destroys the ship. He then flies and meets up with Katara and Sokka. In the movie, he just simply flies away. No Avatar state, no ship-destroying, no fighting, nothing.
3) In the movie, Fire Benders need a source of fire in order to bend (WTF?). This is totally made up. In the show, Fire Benders create their own fire with their own energy, which has been corrupted in a way, so that they bend using anger and rage and whatnot. But in this movie, they need a close-by torch, campfire, etc. Later in the movie, Iroh demonstrates that he is able to bend fire without a source, which the other Fire Benders are amazed at. "Oo, Iroh is bending fire from nothing! Wooow! I wish we could do that!" Ugh. >.>
4) Aang discovers the Avatar statues at the Southern Air Temple in the series. In the movie, he goes to the Northern Air Temple where he meets some unnamed guy (I'm assuming is the Mechanist, but it's never told) that tells him his past life was Roku (in the series, Aang knows this himself by staring at Roku's statue in the SOUTHERN Air Temple), then betrays him for money after blaming his poverty on Aang, and Aang is captured (and later broken out by the Blue Spirit [aka Zuko] - at least they got that right). And another thing, Roku is an actual person in the series who rides a dragon. In the movie, he is the dragon. ????
5) In the series, Monk Gyatso was an elderly, small, Asian man. In the movie, he's a young, well-built, African-American man. Now, I am NOT being racist. I don't mind if they used an African-American for Gyatso because he was a great fit character-wise and whatnot. But at least get an older man!!! This actor isn't even CLOSE to what Monk Gyatso looks like or really even acts like in the series.
6) Fire Lord Ozai is a relatively-young, attractive, power-hungry man in the series. In the movie...well first off, we're not even supposed to see Ozai's face until book 3. In the movie, Ozai is revealed to be an older, sophisticated, calm man with a slight accent. Again, not even close to the Ozai in the series. Oh and evidently, "Grandma" (instead of Gran-Gran) explains to the Katara and Sokka that the Fire Nation's goal is to live without "The Spirits'" guidance. Shyamalan brings up this whole "spirits" thing in the movie. Yes, Aang is the bridge between reality and the spirit world, but it's not as in-depth as Shyamalan tries to make it out to be. The Fire Nation isn't rebelling against these Spirits, they just want to wipe out the rest of the world so they can be the dominant (or sole) nation in the world.
7) In the series, the gang stops at a small Earth Kingdom village that is overtaken by Fire Nation soldiers who forbid Earth Bending. Katara meets Haru. After attempting to help someone, Haru gets arrested, so Katara lets herself get arrested so that Aang and Sokka can figure out where they are being taken. The prison is a giant ship on the sea, where there is no earth. They devise a plan to shoot coal up this big chute for the Earth Benders to bend, and overtake the Fire Nation ship and be free. Well, in the movie, the kids stop at the village and meet what I assume is Haru (in the series is about 14 or 15, Katara kinda has a crush on him; in the movie, he's like...7 and never speaks). They get to the village where the Fire Nation is camping out. No one gets arrested here, though. Aang tells the Earth Benders that earth is all around them and that all they need to do is use it. Oh also, there's a statue of Avatar Kioshi in this village (um... so we just completely skipped over Kioshi Island, then, and stuck it in a completely different town?). Series - Katara's speech on metal ship + coal = revolt. Movie - Aang's speech in town + earth = revolt. So yeah, completely different. Oh, and someone in the town hands Katara her water scroll, rather than in the series where she steals it from pirates.
8) I could keep going on, but it just keeps getting worse from here. They never meet Jet nor make any mention of him, they never go to the Fire Temple on the Soltice to learn of Sozin's Comet, they never meet Jeong Jeong. In the series, the comet will be arriving by summer's end. In the movie, Ozai tells Azula (who is like eight years old) that the comet is three years away (pulled that number out of your butt, eh Shyamalan?) and that he needs her to stop the Avatar or something.....I kind of wasn't listening by that point.

The acting was pretty bad (Sokka had not one drop of humor or excitement at all, Aang was this mopey emo kid, and Katara had no personality whatsoever), the special effects weren't all that special. Ok, bending is an extension of the bender's person. A wave of your arm creates a devastating air blast. But in the movie, they do these big long dance sequences for just one little puff of air. As I read in one review, "sequences of interpretive dance with bits of the elements tossed in". The story jumped from one place to another with barely any explanation. I love the show and know it pretty darned well, and even I was confused watching this movie. Like, who the heck is that, and where are they???

Oh, OH OHHHH, and in the Northern Water Tribe at the North Pole, you know the final battle where Aang joins with the Ocean Spirit to make this giant water creature thing that destroys the fleet? In the movie, that doesn't happen. He makes a big wave, hangs it over the ships all threatening-like, and they turn around and leave. What??? It was so anti-climactic. And rather than the Ocean Spirit killing Zhao, a random group of Water Benders do.

It's like, I don't expect Shyamalan to incorporate every single episode into the movie. What I do expect, though, is to include the major points (a la Solstice, Jeong Jeong, Jet, Kioshi Island, etc.). And the points that are included should at least be accurate. But it's like...he took this fantastic series, crapped it out, and called it a movie. Everything is out of place and the whole thing just stinks.

Now, I understand there will be people who like it. Perhaps those who aren't familiar with the series, or even people who accept that live-action films are often loosely based off of their source material. But for me, an Avatar junkie, I expected a lot, LOT more than this garbage. My husband and I wanted to walk out after the first few minutes, but stuck around. I will not be seeing Book 2 and Book 3 (lord, I hate to see what they'll do to Toph, and they probably won't even include Appa's kidnapping). Biggest waste of $20 in a long time. :(

I will say, however, that Zuko's character played by Dev Patel (correct me on that if I'm wrong) does a pretty darned good job. He captured Zuko's personality well and made him believeable. I would have liked the scar to be a bit more obvious (he didn't get scratched by a kitten, he got freaking burned), but I can accept that. He did a good job.

/end rant
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Haven't seen much of the series, nor the movie, but based on this, it sounds like just another book-turned-movie. I had the same problems with the Harry Potter movies.

This would seem a bit worse tough.

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Essentially what you said Rhyela pretty much covered my complaints. They left out Suki! Sure, she's not THAT HUGE in Book one, but in Book Three, she's just a main character as the rest! THere isn't going to be a book 2 or 3, they killed this one, and no one will watch anymore Avatar movies they'll put out. It's like the Golden Compass, except, as one review said, "They made it [Golden Compass] look like a 4 star movie."
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Yeah, that's what I've heard. It makes me so angry when they take a series from a video game or book or even TV and then turn it into a different beast on the big screen. It's like "REALLY, guy's? The fan's want to see their favorite series brought to life on the big screen, they do NOT want to see YOUR interpretation of it!"

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I love Avatar and I won't go see the movie. Final nail in the coffin was when our niece and nephew, 8 and 10, told us not to waste our time with it. If you can't sell an Avatar movie to that age group, your movie sucks. Plain and simple.

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I've only seen a few episodes of Avatar, but I feel your pain. Honestly, people shouldn't even bother with making a movie/show based on something without the creators looking over the project. Seriously. I'll bet a whole bunch of disappointing movies/shows could have been avoided if the creators actually had a part in the making of it. For example, the only successful video game movie I've heard of is the movie based off of the Professor Layton game series. And the makers of the game had a huge part in the making of the movie. Prince of Persia I heard was sort of "meh" to "sort of bad" (not eye-bleedingly terrible), but I'm not too sure if any of the creators had a part in it, so...

I'm sorry you had to sit through such a disappointment. D:

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At least Zuko is untouched.. I mean I can kinda understand the scar thing, it'd be hard to make it look REALLY good without it looking fake which may be hard seeing as its huge. However I'll probably go see it and I to am an avatar junkie but the fact you gave me hope in Zuko is what I need because as my favorite character I love him unconditionally <3 :lol:

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/siiiiggghhh

I'll come back and make a huge rant on this later, right now I don't want to talk about it though. -__- Needless to say I was horrendously disappointed and after we left the theater I couldn't get home quick enough to watch the animated series and bleach the movie from my mind.
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You wrote a pretty good description in the Avatar thread, can't you use your überleet modpowers to restore it, and then copy it here?

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Lol, nah I don't think I can restore deleted posts. xD I'll just type it up later when I'm more awake, lol.
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I could check the history on edited posts back in another phpBB forum I moderated, but Mania probably runs some sort of modified priviledges. :P

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Shamallama should just, like, stop creating movies. Really. All of his movies sucked, no matter what the age group.

The trailers for the movie looked interesting, but other than that the movie can go suck it. >C
When it's based on a TV series how can they pronounce the names wrong?
Because they wanted to piss Last Airbender tv show fans off?
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Harpier wrote:Shamallama should just, like, stop creating movies. Really. All of his movies sucked, no matter what the age group.

The trailers for the movie looked interesting, but other than that the movie can go suck it. >C
My guess is he is done. Perhaps not by choice, but considering the people that suddenly have "scheduling conflict" for future projects of his they'd signed on to do, I doubt his career is going much further...

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I liked his earlyer movies they where good....
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When it's based on a TV series how can they pronounce the names wrong? That's terrible. I love the series and have yet to see the film. I'll probably end up just downloading it out of curiosity with such terrible reviews. :\
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I've yet to see the movie, but I do keep hearing negative reviews of it. There's a chance I won't see it. >.< Or I may, but so far people are telling me not to waste $15 on this movie.

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I have a lot of kids channels up on the TV when it is allowed on and they had a sort of interview with the directer about his movie and why he thinks its really good. In it he said that he wanted to give the names of the characters the 'real' oriental pronunciation. I also recall how he (or one of the writers) was quoted somewhere saying that they wanted to dissolve the race distinctions of the peoples so that it WASN'T perceived as oriental .

Now....isn't that going in two different directions? I smell a huge lack of compromise and communication.
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I hope it bombs. He should NOT make any sort of big profit off of this.
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its all ready made 5 mill so yeah hes made a big profit lol
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You can squeeze in the by and large of a plot over a two hour time slot. And if you can't, then you put in as much as you can, find a good stopping point, and make another movie if your first does well. What's important is that the fan's feel like what you have made represents the series.

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