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i have given up on krush. not worth breaking my pc over

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after having so many failed attempts and ally killing him during mid tame i gave up.

after coming here i decided to try again. i went to un goro first and found mosh to practice on since he fears and has same hp as krush. got mosh yesterday. decided to check for krush this morning. now i should point out. after looking at your pics on here. no offense but your gear is crap. im in icc25 gear. i have top pvp gear which is used for the tame since i gemmed full stam and haste. i read the guides on here. got the pots flasks etc.

its 6am server time. i find krush in north west SB. i /who and im only person in SB (horde side anyways) i send in mosh. i wait until krush fears and i hit my abandon pet beastial wrath tame beast , pot macros. 0.7 seconds left on my cast bar..................FEARED -.- 0.7 second left and blizzard says **** *** your not taming krush today. ofc he fears me and somehow crits me twice killing me.

i run back. i try several more times this time without a pet (no time to tame) i get to 2 seconds. FEAR dead. now a gnome lock is hovering around. he pulls krush off me and krush fears him into numerous mobs killing him. then krush kills me. i run back lock is sitting on his crappy flying mount. i /beg several times. i begin to tame FEARED. i FD then mark krush with hunters mark. lock pulls krush and kills krush.

i log my ally warrior and ask him why. he doesnt reply. after sending every swear word you can think of to him he says sorry.

im fed up with this. last time it was a gnome mage who pulled and killed him with only a few seconds left. time before that it was a nelf priest. this isnt fair at all. ever since wotlk came out ive been looking for krush. how can you guys in your low gear and low lvl get him? i have a very short temper and i dont wanna start hitting my pc (which is worth a damn lot) and breaking it. why must blizzard screw over hunters with 100% armor reduction while taming and why cant we have a protective aura on the mob we are taming. this is totally bs
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Hmm...well, first off, evidently taming King Krush is not all about gear. It's been said before that a great deal of it has to do with luck of the draw. Many (ok, probably most) people don't get him on the first, second...fifth, ninth try. If it's something you really want, you just have to keep at it. Accept that there will be people who will kill him, that's all part of the game. And to be quite honest, that gnome was actually pretty polite waiting as long as he did. You said "several times" you went in without a pet. That means you had 10 seconds less of fear immunity. That's not his fault, if anything it sounds like he was pretty patient, waiting while you missed the tame over and over and over becaues you didn't have a pet. I understand you didn't want to leave him there to go find one, but having that BW+abandon macro is probably one of the biggest helps in taming Krush. Without it, there's not a very good chance you'll succeed. When I messed up my tame and had to get another pet, I turned on humanoid tracking. I knew Krush was there, but having humanoid tracking on told me if any people popped up in the area. Not trying to sound too critical, but I think it was a mistake not taking a chance at finding another trash pet. If you only had two seconds left on the tame w/o one, then you probably would have tamed him with one. :(

Sounds like this time just wasn't the right time. If it really upsets you that much, then tame something else or find a different pet. If you want him bad enough, you'll endure the frustration we all endured to get him.

And btw, I was one of those people in the "crap gear" and low level. I did the best I could, but I had about 20k hp and maybe 800 haste total, and was a fresh lvl 75. What helped me? My brother's shaman came to my aid and gave me Heroism. Couldn't have done it without him.

Keep at it, you'll eventually get him. Just remember that gear isn't everything, much like in instances. There's many more factors than just the numbers on your equipment. It takes practice, skill, and a pinch of luck.

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i have 676 haste atm. thats with imperial manta food and elixir of lightning speed and all my pvp gear enchanted with haste and stamn. and some random 1h weps with haste on and papas throwing knife from FoS equipped. once i drink potion of speed i get 1176 haste.
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ah , the hunt on krush , i had icc10 gear at the time , no potions or flasks (because he killed me first attempt) and half yellow gear , no help from priest or anyone else
i send in a rhino i saw around and pushed the BW/abandon macro , and bam , start tame
i had 16 second tame with all the haste and yep he was mine
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Also one of those crappy gear people. And I did it.

Your best bet is help. It makes it so much easier to have a priest, or even a pally. Their Hammer of Justice stun DOES work. It took me about 5,6 tries. Key things:

1. Do NOT give up. He WILL be yours, when he's ready. Krush is testing you, ensuring you are powerful enough to work with him.
2. ALWAYS try for another temp pet, it is a huge help. Full 16 seconds, no fear protection, or 6 seconds, no fear protection. It IS worth it, ALWAYS go for it.
3. Do not, under any circumstances, panic. You are out there to find him, don't be surprised when you do. Also, you have a PLAN. You KNOW it should work, you've tested it, and tested it, and it should work! Don't get distressed!

It took me about 6 tries to get him on my fifth time or so finding him. Don't worry if someone comes, chances are they'll get killed. And if they're your faction, ask them to spare him! All the tries stolen from me were caused by a hordie or an actual griefer. Lock probably will leave you alone, he got his achievement, right?

Good luck!
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After cata comes out, northrend will be kinda lifeless (even moreso) I remember trying to tame nuramoc during the time 3.0 and wrath was released and it was near impossible to find him alive and un aggroed. but now its rare to not find him >.<

So even if it seems impossible now, trust me you will get him, one way or another :3

Lil, What does beast lore say about its armor rating?
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ITS OVER 9000!!!!

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Yeah..trust me on this one...I hate that stupid big green dino king of the jungle...I've tried taming him and failed, had him killed on me mid tame by a member of the horde, and I gave up and snatched up King Mosh instead...At least...I gave up for now..I'm thinking that once Cata DOES come out, there will be a lot less people in the Basin questing/mining/herbing/looking for rares, and if I'm lucky I'll be able to grab him and THEN start questing to 85...He will be mine someday..I just have to be patient.
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I to tried for Krush. I wouldn't say my gear was crappy but it certainly is no where near the best. I had haste gear, pots, elixirs, food and a trinket and still was only able to get my tame times to 12-13 seconds and it WAS NOT fast enough.
On three separate occasions I tried. The first two he was ganked right out from under me without question, waiting or nothing. They just came in and slaughtered him. The third was the absolute most painful (I even made a thread on it) I had and tried for 20 minutes and failed constantly. I was mid tame and another player came in and killed him right out from under me.
I still haven't given up and you can sure as hades bet I'm going back. But when I do it will be with help. Even if I have to pay for it.
Dare I say those who got Krush solo were damn lucky. :lol:

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I never went to tame him.

But one thing is for sure:
WoW is definitely not the right game for people with a short temper.

How do I know?
I'm one of them myself.

Why is it that Blizz knows absolutely sure what people will want to have and make it so incredibly hard to get it?
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Never been interested in Krush, but I'd assume it's similiar in difficulty to The Beast, possibly easier.
I used a full set of crafted caster cloth gear (100% armor reduction so material doesn't matter) the Duskweave set, with potions, food, 2 x nighttime axes, 1 haste trink and 1 brewfest mug trink. It was a total nightmare but I got it in the end! Fail after fail after omfg it's nearly done..no another knockback, fail. The key is just keep trying. There's no secret method apart from the bw/release macro, just perserverance.
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Katzbalger wrote:Never been interested in Krush, but I'd assume it's similiar in difficulty to The Beast, possibly easier.
I used a full set of crafted caster cloth gear (100% armor reduction so material doesn't matter) the Duskweave set, with potions, food, 2 x nighttime axes, 1 haste trink and 1 brewfest mug trink. It was a total nightmare but I got it in the end! Fail after fail after omfg it's nearly done..no another knockback, fail. The key is just keep trying. There's no secret method apart from the bw/release macro, just perserverance.
Krush is WAY more difficult than The Beast. I've got both, and I made a grand total of two trips into upper blackrock spire for The Beast. I went in unprepared the first time, made a few attempts and failed. The second time I came in with potions, elixirs, etc. and stood in a corner. A few seconds later I was the proud owner of a big red dog I named Clifford.

It took me about 8 weeks of near-constant camping to get Krush, and I attempted tames on half a dozen separate occasions before I successfully tamed him. A few of those times he was ganked out from under me by horde or even other alliance for no apparent reason (since he was tagged to me and they didn't get the loot or achievement), other times I got to attempt the tame 6, 7, even 10 times and just failed over and over and over again.

It's an extremely demoralizing camp for a lot of reasons, half of which being the sheer difficulty in finding him and the competition with other players out for the kill, the other half being the difficulty of the tame itself which would be very difficult even with no chance of being interrupted by other players.

I'm sorry you're having such a hard time with Krush, and believe me, I know all about that one. There were a few times I was sitting at my computer in tears because I had just pulled a 10 hour straight camping session of flying around the basin only to have him killed while I was making my first tame attempt. I was so frustrated that I was contemplating giving up my hunter altogether.

All I can say is that once you do finally get him, he's more than worth the blood, sweat, and tears that went into it. I haven't stabled him since I got him; he's the only pet that I've really "bonded" with, and I can say that it's almost entirely due to how hard I had to work for him.

You'll get him, but taking a break and coming back fresh might be a good idea. When I found him on that fateful day when I finally successfully tamed, I had been mining in the basin on my mage. Eight weeks of flying in circles around the basin on my hunter for hours and hours at a time and I find him while I'm in there on my mage!

If you decide you want to keep trying, I wish you luck :)

(I had 1650 haste buffed, which helped a lot. Less reliance on luck if you can get your tame as close to the BW timer as possible. Send me a PM if you want any info on the gear I used.)
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Gear has nothing to do with it.

I have "Crap" gear, i'm not elitist and throwing my weight around saying you suck, why can't I tame because I have awesome gear and you don't. In the world of taming, its not what you have but what you do with it.

Luck and skill is more or less how certain tames will be successful or not, just because you killed the Lich King doesn't mean you can Tame a difficult pet like Krush.

Like raid encounters, taming needs to be carefully planned and executed. If you have no patience you wont persevere.
When given the choice, do you Tame or do you not?
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Halcyre wrote:Gear has nothing to do with it.

I have "Crap" gear, i'm not elitist and throwing my weight around saying you suck, why can't I tame because I have awesome gear and you don't. In the world of taming, its not what you have but what you do with it.

Luck and skill is more or less how certain tames will be successful or not, just because you killed the Lich King doesn't mean you can Tame a difficult pet like Krush.

Like raid encounters, taming needs to be carefully planned and executed. If you have no patience you wont persevere.
I can't agree that gear has nothing to do with it, but I do agree that careful planning, skill, and luck play a larger role, and patience is absolutely required.

You rely less on luck if your tame timer is 12 seconds instead of 20 seconds, since that's 8 seconds of possible fearing you can avoid (and 8 less seconds of getting beaten down, and Krush hits hard). Most of the haste I had came from relatively cheap caster gear and some quest rewards, so it's not a "you must have ICC10 gear to tame him, and if you don't you're a nub" kind of thing.

Gear certainly isn't everything, but it does help.
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Best bet in general though is to find help. Solo taming is EXTREMELY difficult, having someone help (As well as moral support.) is hugely important, in my mind. When I finally got my Krush, I had a hunter, a priest (My brother.) a pally, and a mage, all helping me in one way another. Mage spared Krush, hunter protected me from mobs, pally buffed me and offered me luck, my brother gave me fear ward. Without their help, I would've not gotten him the day I got him, I would've failed. Definitely.

Keep your spirits up, ask your guild for help. Let them know. They'll help you look, and maybe help with the tame. I had, one night, two of my guildies helping to cover the spawn points. She even set her hearth to Nesingwary so she could come as fast as she could to help me. Your guild is your friend, ask them for help, support, whatnot. Chances are, they'll give it.
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Taming King Krush is not terribly hard if you prepare for it properly.

Things you're going to need before you start:


Thorny Rose Brooch from The Shadow Vault; have it equipped in your first trinket slot. (optional)

Potion of Speed

Elixir of Mighty Fortitude

Elixir of Lightning Speed

Scroll of Stamina VIII

Buy a bunch of Imperial Manta Steak and keep the Well-Fed buff on yourself at all times.

Before you start, respec: Not only into the 51-point talent (duh), but Survival Instincts, Survivalist, Aspect Mastery, and Endurance Training. I'd also pick up Pathfinding solely because it makes your flyer a bit quicker, which may make all the difference.

I've made the following macros, and they bring the taming down to about 15.6 seconds and ensure you won't get feared. Place them all near each other, and somewhere where you can execute them in the correct order--if you're anything like me, you'll be too panicked to think straight.

To buff yourself:
/use Elixir of Lightning Speed
/use Scroll of Stamina VIII

And also, after the cooldown on the Elixir:
/use Elixir of Mighty Fortitude

To immediately activate Bestial Wrath and simultaneously get rid of your trash pet:
#showtooltip Bestial Wrath
/cast !Bestial Wrath
/script PetAbandon()

To use your Thorny Rose Brooch and Potion of Speed, and begin the tame:
/use Potion of Speed
/use 13
#showtooltip Tame Beast
/cast !Tame Beast

Even without the throny rosebush, you should have enough haste to beat out the fear. It may take you an attempt or three but it is doable.

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from my experiance in taming krush and knowing others who have, none of us had ICC gear at all, it was all ilvl219-232. A friend of mine from my other server actully had ilvl 200-219 gear, no haste or stam gems and got krush. I went with her on my druid and when we finally found him she ate her food for haste got rdy, i placed my hots on her left aggro range she popped her haste drink and attempted it. Took her about 3 times before she got him. it was all lucka nd timing the first 3 times, she got feared the 4th time no fear at all, we think it was because she didnt even attack him ( didnt tag him) is it from that no idea. Then on my hunter, i wasnt even looking for him. when my silverderagon and npcscan i was shocked. I had ilvl 219-232 gear with no haste gems or stam gems. all i had was a haste pot i got for hitting 80, since i never used them. I pretty much dropped from my mount, mad sure i was at max tame range, drank my haste pot and tamed him. he never feared me. I also did not tag him. So could it be since we did not tag him, he did not fear? no idea could of just been lucky.

IMO gear does help, haste trinkets, food and pots help but most of it is sheeeeer luck.

if you do try to look for him to get him, i wish you good luck and maybe dont try to farm him, casually look for him. its what i did, if i was in the basin i would fly his pats once in a while if i was there i didnt camp him. imo it helps incase you get him killed from under you, you are not going " dang it i camped "this long" and he wwas killed!"

and saying people have crap gear, is kinda messed up -_- not everyone can raid.
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Siliverin wrote:
IMO gear does help, haste trinkets, food and pots help but most of it is sheeeeer luck.

Quite incorrect. You CAN get enough haste solely with consumables to tame him. Any gear that has haste on it (regardless of iLevel) is gravy. Luck has very little to do with it. If you prepare yourself with the right items, when you see him and if you tame him in a place free from other mobs, you should have no problems.

The only part "luck" holds in this equation is finding him and doing so where there are no other players in the area that will try to tame him/kill him before you.

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Valashe wrote:
Siliverin wrote:
IMO gear does help, haste trinkets, food and pots help but most of it is sheeeeer luck.

Quite incorrect. You CAN get enough haste solely with consumables to tame him. Any gear that has haste on it (regardless of iLevel) is gravy. Luck has very little to do with it. If you prepare yourself with the right items, when you see him and if you tame him in a place free from other mobs, you should have no problems.

The only part "luck" holds in this equation is finding him and doing so where there are no other players in the area that will try to tame him/kill him before you.
I suppose if you have enough gear/consumables to get your tame timer down to 10 seconds then taming should be no problem. That wasn't possible for me, I got it to about 13 seconds and just had to hope he wouldn't fear or kill me in the last three. In most cases, it's about a combination of gear, skill, and luck.

What consumables alone will get you to a sub-10 second tame timer?
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I suggest getting a Discipline Priest to help. Fear Ward, uber bubbles and ... Power Infusion.

PI turned a friend of mine's tame into a laughably simple affair, she barely took damage, and in about 12 seconds Krush was hers. Alliance and griefers didn't have time to interfere.

For even more ridiculous swiftness, maybe a shaman for bloodlust -and- Power Infusion from a disc priest.
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