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Sarayana wrote:Saturo, I couldn't agree more. I had a huge argument with my hubby in a restaurant about it. Told him I refused to go back. Screaming, crying, hiding in the bathroom for 1/2 hour. (Again: why he stayed, I've no idea...) She just... she managed to get in under my defenses, you know? It's unpleasant, but it's what it takes for some people to face what's causing them trouble.
For me, I'm far more likely to just sit quiet, answering in single-word sentences if asked anything...

And the fact that he stayed with you means that he loved you and wanted to help you. You should be happy to have him.

EDIT: Rawr, see? Not all doctors are jackasses! For example, I wanted some iron-pills, but all I got was the advice to eat more, and make sure my meals contained iron naturally. That's the kind of doctor that's good, even tough I would have preferred the pills. :D

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Saturo I recommend Chromagen Forte gelcaps. It's what I take for my anemia also B-12 helps it. :mrgreen: and yah not all doctors are that bad, just have to wade through the BS to get what u need. I still don't like doctors tho.

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I'm surprised that I'm the first one to bring this up, actually. Don't take this the wrong way guys, but I actually feel a bit better knowing that I'm not the only one that feels the way I do. Makes me feel less...ashamed about it I guess.

I blame all this 'emo' press. And teenagers. *cranks her music up to the kind of decibels that an aircraft puts out*
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That's important too. Knowing that you aren't alone. It happens to a lot of people.

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Rawr wrote:Saturo I recommend Chromagen Forte gelcaps. It's what I take for my anemia also B-12 helps it. :mrgreen: and yah not all doctors are that bad, just have to wade through the BS to get what u need. I still don't like doctors tho.
Ooh, thanks for the tip! I'll look into it. :)
Jangalian wrote:I blame all this 'emo' press. And teenaers.
Hmm?

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You know, when people laugh at you and call you emo if you so much as frown, then brush off your feelings as inconsequential.

Also, the look that some teenagers (my neice included) are trying for but can't really accomplish as they aren't being 'emotional' at all.
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DEPRESSED/BIPOLAR/MANIC PEOPLE OF THE FORUMS UNITE!!! :headbang:

But yah, ur not alone :hug: Never feel like u are :mrgreen:


Edit: Emo...........is what what my boyfriend calls some of the guildies who /gquite after being late to a raid and not getting in. I don't think emo should pertain to real life tho.
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Doctors are just people like the rest of us. Some are good at their jobs, some not so much.

I would like to make a small statement, though ...

Depression happens to a lot of different people for a lot of different reasons. Sometimes medication doesn't work for you, sometimes it's just what you need to get back on your feet and then you can stop taking it. And sometimes your body has an underlying biological problem that requires medical treatment for the rest of your life. A thyroid disorder, for instance, or a genetic neurotransmitter imbalance.

Your value as a person does not depend on your mental health. You are not at fault, your feelings and moods do not make you less, and how you choose to deal with the situation is not up for judgement. Your value doesn't rest on your depression and it doesn't rest on your relationship to medication: whether you try medication, whether medication helps you, whether you take medication for 3 months or 3 years or 30 years.

I want to be very clear on this because when my depression starts getting out of hand one of the first things I do is fall into thinking that I have no value and no right to exist.
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Jangalian wrote:You know, when people laugh at you and call you emo if you so much as frown, then brush off your feelings as inconsequential.
Ah, you mean people replacing the word sad with emo? Yeah, that kind of annoys me too. Just ignore the stupidity.
Jangalian wrote:Also, the look that some teenagers (my neice included) are trying for but can't really accomplish as they aren't being 'emotional' at all.
Ah, yeah. That makes sense, actually.[quote="Mania"I want to be very clear on this because when my depression starts getting out of hand one of the first things I do is fall into thinking that I have no value and no right to exist.[/quote]Aye, that's usually one of the first things that happen to me too.

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Mania wrote:I want to be very clear on this because when my depression starts getting out of hand one of the first things I do is fall into thinking that I have no value and no right to exist.

Yep, this is what's hardest to shake for me. Then I get in the (bad) habit of just lying around, not doing anything, and this state can persist for days.
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Mania wrote:Doctors are just people like the rest of us. Some are good at their jobs, some not so much.

I would like to make a small statement, though ...

Depression happens to a lot of different people for a lot of different reasons. Sometimes medication doesn't work for you, sometimes it's just what you need to get back on your feet and then you can stop taking it. And sometimes your body has an underlying biological problem that requires medical treatment for the rest of your life. A thyroid disorder, for instance, or a genetic neurotransmitter imbalance.

Your value as a person does not depend on your mental health. You are not at fault, your feelings and moods do not make you less, and how you choose to deal with the situation is not up for judgement. Your value doesn't rest on your depression and it doesn't rest on your relationship to medication: whether you try medication, whether medication helps you, whether you take medication for 3 months or 3 years or 30 years.

I want to be very clear on this because when my depression starts getting out of hand one of the first things I do is fall into thinking that I have no value and no right to exist.
I wish someone would have said this to me when I was 12. Would have made my life a lot less miserable and a lot more bearable. :mrgreen:

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Mania wrote:I want to be very clear on this because when my depression starts getting out of hand one of the first things I do is fall into thinking that I have no value and no right to exist.

Yep, this is what's hardest to shake for me. Then I get in the (bad) habit of just lying around, not doing anything, and this state can persist for days.
I have that too. I'm lucky to have a sister that cares enough to force me out of bed and in front of the computer. :D

You should try and find something to do. You can go for long walks, or take runs, or something like that. Something that works for me is to take a camera and take pictures of interesting things. You should try it.

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I think it's really important to be critical of the way your doctor treats you... We like to believe they know what they're doing and all that, but sometimes they just don't. I had a bad experience with a doctor when I was in my late teens - I was going through cycles of hypo- and hyperthyroidism and developing a nice, big gallstone at the same time and she had me on so much crap.. She couldn't figure out the symptoms cause they were all over the place. A better doctor probably would have.

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Yeah, true Sara. You need to find a good doctor that you trust.

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Jangalian wrote:I'm surprised that I'm the first one to bring this up, actually. Don't take this the wrong way guys, but I actually feel a bit better knowing that I'm not the only one that feels the way I do. Makes me feel less...ashamed about it I guess.
So, uh yeah. Depression sucks, and I'd like to do my part to help. Admitedly, that just means relaying my personal experience and what helped me. I hope you can find something from this that applies to you. I hope you get over this quickly and safely.

Around a year ago now, I left my hometown to go study high art at TAFE. Looking back, I was highly unprepared for it at the time, but anyway. The first few weeks were bliss, the campus I was at was fantastic and some of the best artists in the city were lecturing for me. I was also boarding with my Aunt, who was very supportive and patient. After the "blah" that was my secondary school experience, I finally felt like I was accomplishing something with my life.
But in order to get there, I had to leave behind everything I loved. I'm a socially awkward person, so I never really made friends while I was down there to replace those I had left behind. Also, I had not been away from home for more than two weeks before that time too. At around 6 weeks into the course (8 weeks since I left), I fell into a deep homesickness-related depression. It just got harder each day to get into class, once I got in there I buried myself in my work at the expense of everything else. Eventually I just couldn't get up.
By the 9 week margin, I was dangerously close to hurting myself. I wasn't suicidal thankfully, but I was gnawing at myself, worrying as the back of my hand with my teeth. In hindsight, I find it disturbing with how animalistic it was. But at the time it felt like the only way to escape, a way to release how I felt at the time. Thankfully at that point, I wisely got on a train back home to recover.
At the advice of my therapist back home, I dropped out of the course. I'm starting to make plans to go back, but it's just small baby steps at the moment. Even now, thinking back on my time there I get teary. It took a lot of time for me to stop beating myself up about the incident too. I felt that I had failed everyone, that I had put undue pressure on my poor Aunt (who has enough stress to deal with) and that I had wasted everyones time. But this stuff happens to everyone at some point. As shitty as I felt at the time, it's over now and I can learn from it.

So, here's a few tips I can pass that I hope will help you in some way.
- Find someone to talk about it to. The sooner the better. It can be with anyone, your local Psychologist, Doctor, friends or family, whomever you feel comfortable talking to. Getting your problems off your chest is the first step towards getting out of the depression pit. Personally, I feel the most comfortable speaking with someone I don't know personally.I had two fantastic Psychologists (one whilst I was studying and another once I returned home) who helped me in a lot of ways. I only wish I got talking to the Psych at the school sooner, maybe if I did I could have continued with my studies.
- Try to keep yourself social and active. I know it's hard when all you want to do is shut yourself away from the world, but going out with friends, family and people who care about you helps.
- If you every start having thoughts about self harm, seek out help! That is a dark, dark path and it is so easy to slip into. Find a way to escape from that situation, whatever it may be. In the long run, your health is much more important.

And since we're on the topic of pills, let me end with my opinion on them.
Like you Jang I'm pretty wary of pills, although not for the same reason. My Mum is Shizophrenic (amongst many other medical woes), she keeps herself lucid by taking around 10 or so pills a day, each with their own nasty side effect. And she's been this way for as long as I can remember. Needless to say, I've never been fond of pills of any sort. It takes a lot for me to decide to take an asprin.
That said though, I do agree with what everyone else has been saying. Pills can help in the right situation, if perscribed by the right person.

Huh, never expected to spill so much of my life on a forum dedicated to World of Warcraft pets of all things. Well, anyway. I hope I helped in some small way. Keep at it, as bleak as things seem, it'll get better.

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Mmph, I think my breaking point was also art college. I saw everyone else's art, thought "I'll never be that good." and nosedived. Dove? Anyways. I'm getting better about art now, although I still have some serious doubts about my skillz.

I read everyone's comments (thank you all for answering), and I think excersize might be in my best interest right now. I'm too much of a loner to really want to have to depend on any sort of therapist, so my dogs will fill in for that. Besides, they'll never go "Hmmhm, and how does that make you FEEL? /write in notebook".

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Jangalian wrote:Mmph, I think my breaking point was also art college. I saw everyone else's art, thought "I'll never be that good." and nosedived. Dove? Anyways. I'm getting better about art now, although I still have some serious doubts about my skillz.

I read everyone's comments (thank you all for answering), and I think excersize might be in my best interest right now. I'm too much of a loner to really want to have to depend on any sort of therapist, so my dogs will fill in for that. Besides, they'll never go "Hmmhm, and how does that make you FEEL? /write in notebook".

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In my therapist's defense, she never took notes while I talked to her. (I'm assuming she wrote furiously once I left. ;))
Seriously, though, I think it's great that you're taking steps to work things out on your own. It's a great first step and it really doesn't preclude the possibility of any other action if you feel you need it at a later time.

Just bear in mind that many, many therapists aren't that stereotypical tv-show therapist you described. Yeah, the setting is awkward at first (after all, you're two strangers sitting in a room to talk about you) but if he is worth his salt, he'll be able to move past that initial awkwardness quickly. If not, then you'll know to move on.

If you're at all able, I'd recommend getting out - running, if you enjoy that - during the day. There's something about daylight and sunshine that is just... it lifts your spirit. :)

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Sarayana wrote:If you're at all able, I'd recommend getting out - running, if you enjoy that - during the day. There's something about daylight and sunshine that is just... it lifts your spirit. :)
You mean I'm weird for preferring to run during the night? :P

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Saturo wrote:
Sarayana wrote:If you're at all able, I'd recommend getting out - running, if you enjoy that - during the day. There's something about daylight and sunshine that is just... it lifts your spirit. :)
You mean I'm weird for preferring to run during the night? :P
Haha! No. ;) Actually, when I was in high school I'd regularly go for 2-3 hour walks around midnight... It was so relaxing. :) Anyway, my point was just that sunlight is good at chasing away negative feelings.

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