Disappointed in Cata pets.. I am.

[Mindsprocket]

Well, one point of hope could be that the female worgen aren't in beta yet either. And they're playable, which means that they most likely have a higher priority than pets. Yes, we've seen data of them, but it's been ages since there was an update, even though I'm sure Blizz is working on them constantly to get them out asap. They may already be quite different from what we last saw, so there could be beasts in development that we haven't seen yet.

But at the same time, there is a chance that there won't be any more totally new pets. I know that BC saw a flood of new creatures, but that was most likely because it opened a world with a completely different fauna. Blizz had to design new creatures that could inhabit the strange areas of Outland. Can you imagine Zangramarsh with wolfs and bears? In Wrath, however, there were only 2 1/2 new pet families with creatures that didn't exist before: Spirit Beasts, Rhinos and parts of the Birds of Prey. All the other "new" pet families were old creatures of which only the worm got *one* totally new model (iirc). And the rest were a couple of new skins for old families.

This means that with three new creatures (foxes, mastiffs and monkeys), some newly tameable old creatures and a handfull of new skins Cata would be on level with Wrath. So this may actually be all we can expect.

Though I'm not sure if that would be so bad. There currently are 32 pet families with a total of about 230 skins. Add in the new pets we already know about and we're up to about 250. That's already 10x more than a hunter can actually tame. So it's not like we don't have options. I don't know about you, but I already know more than 25 pets I would like to have. Adding even more pet families would make choosing even more difficult. Sometimes less is more, so I certainly won't be too disappointed if there are no more new creatures to tame.

[cowmuflage]

It's all a waiting game there is no reason to go "boo blizz you suck" just yet be patient. You can't demand things like this. I'd rather them fix things that need to be fixed in beta first before adding new pets to make a few hunters happy ya know?

[Karathyriel]

It's all a waiting game there is no reason to go "boo blizz you suck" just yet

^This!

I really don't know why people are complaining about that effing game all the time but keep playing.
I really don't understand why people are displeased with things that aren't there yet.
I really don't see any reason to complain BEFORE Cataclysm hits the shelves and you actually SEE what they have done and what they didn't do.

I said it before and I repeat it here:
Keep cool, stay calm, wait for the final product, dammit!
Would you boo you favorite bands new album if you didn't like the first single that is published?

[Ade]

I said it before and I repeat it here:
Keep cool, stay calm, wait for the final product, dammit!
Would you boo you favorite bands new album if you didn't like the first single that is published?

Not alot i can add to this statement

Despite beta, the end is still far away in progressive terms. Please be patient.

[Royi]

It's all a waiting game there is no reason to go "boo blizz you suck" just yet

^This!

I really don't know why people are complaining about that effing game all the time but keep playing.
I really don't understand why people are displeased with things that aren't there yet.
I really don't see any reason to complain BEFORE Cataclysm hits the shelves and you actually SEE what they have done and what they didn't do.

I said it before and I repeat it here:
Keep cool, stay calm, wait for the final product, dammit!
Would you boo you favorite bands new album if you didn't like the first single that is published?

Its called a generic warcraft player. They are dumb and they dont think. If you scare them away, they'll come back with greater numbers...


Anywho. How about this pet...... Spirit Beast Monkey!!!!!!! He only spawns in the trees of Azeroth, is non-trackable, and can spawn in any tree in any forest. (they can make it happen)

That would be a fun hunt to find. I'm thinking sort of like the Chesire Cat almost... but monkey-esk.

Heck even a Cheshire Cat reference Spirit Beast would be neat. I guess one could argue that it would be too close to Gondria though...

[Mindsprocket]

I really don't know why people are complaining about that effing game all the time but keep playing.
I really don't understand why people are displeased with things that aren't there yet.
I really don't see any reason to complain BEFORE Cataclysm hits the shelves and you actually SEE what they have done and what they didn't do.

I don't understand people that keep discussing a game they don't even play anymore.

Sorry, just couldn't resist.

[Karathyriel]

I'm not discussing the game.
I'm discussing peoples ranting about something that doesn't exist yet.

And I didn't quit playing because I thought the games was stupid.
I did quit because I thought the security was gone with facebook on board.

[Ade]

More a musing than fact, Karathyriel will be drawn back by cata(and i hope he does)/bow

[RakuRaku]

They said that Zhevra's would become tamable before beta launched... Some where. So maybe they're not done implimenting them yet. It's beta after all.

[FuzzyDolly]

Honestly, I don't want a fox OR a mastif, so the 25 stable slots is more than enough for me right now. That's what I wanted, that's what I'm getting. This means I can go out and tame TWENTY pets, some new, some revisits. I can test out all the pets I've never used, turtles, gorillas, sporebats, etc. Why wouldn't I be happy about this? Now, that being said, I'd like some current skins to be made available for taming. Like that blue dog that looks like the blighthound. That would be a fun pet. I'd also like to tame stags, zebras and the like. We could use a horse type family. Again, this is beta and from what I've read here, they haven't done a pet pass yet. We'll have to wait till Cat comes out to see what happens, but if ALL we get is bigger stabels, I'll still be happy.

[Palladiamorsdeus]

It's all a waiting game there is no reason to go "boo blizz you suck" just yet

^This!

I really don't know why people are complaining about that effing game all the time but keep playing.
I really don't understand why people are displeased with things that aren't there yet.
I really don't see any reason to complain BEFORE Cataclysm hits the shelves and you actually SEE what they have done and what they didn't do.

I said it before and I repeat it here:
Keep cool, stay calm, wait for the final product, dammit!
Would you boo you favorite bands new album if you didn't like the first single that is published?

Its called a generic warcraft player. They are dumb and they dont think. If you scare them away, they'll come back with greater numbers...


Anywho. How about this pet...... Spirit Beast Monkey!!!!!!! He only spawns in the trees of Azeroth, is non-trackable, and can spawn in any tree in any forest. (they can make it happen)

That would be a fun hunt to find. I'm thinking sort of like the Chesire Cat almost... but monkey-esk.

Heck even a Cheshire Cat reference Spirit Beast would be neat. I guess one could argue that it would be too close to Gondria though...

Easy with how you toss around blanket statements like that, friend. You could have potentially just insulted several people in this thread, meant to or not, and that ain't kosher. Just tone it back a bit.

So far I think it's completely okay to be disappointed with what we've seen with pets. Beta has been going on for a while now, and we have seen very little in the ways of anything new. Personally, I don't count foxes, mastifs, and monkies. I see them as reskinned wolves and gorillas. I don't think you should take it all as solid right now, but do feel free to voice your concern, both here and on the beta forums.

[Qraljar]

Okay. If I look properly at all these comments, it's bad to be disheartened about the lack of a plethoria of new pets because you still play the game.. so since I don't like the fact that I don't get a few new models, it means I don't like the game as a whole? That's some twisted logic, no offence.

It's quite sickening to be compared to those trollish whiners that claimed to have quit a game but come back every once in a while to say this and that isn't good. I just said it's dissapointing that so far into the beta all we had were things being REMOVED. Sure we had foxes and mastiffs. But look.

Brainbugs - REMOVED, Silithid Creeper/Swarmer - Rumored to be removed aswell, we had VOLLEY as our only proper AoE removed

and once again as stated, just have gotten a pat on the back and the empty promise that Multi-Shot might compensate. ( My ass, multi-shot can't. ) there's so much things Blizzard can add in a whim, that people that support lore with a passion won't be pissed off with. So I swear, if you can't properly argue or discuss without calling people that merely and respectfully display their individual opinion a generic dumb warcraft player, a forum whiner kid or someone who contradicts his own logic/statements by playing the game even after being negative about it. Then don't. Just don't, it isn't made for you and it just means you are unable to cope with other's opinions when they oppose yours and unable to to give a proper argument. Patronizing people =/ Discussing.

And no, I am not mad, but it's really damn amusing when people contradict theirselves, yet it makes me feel the desire to either spectate their failure or correct it. My apologies.

[Royi]

Easy with how you toss around blanket statements like that, friend. You could have potentially just insulted several people in this thread, meant to or not, and that ain't kosher. Just tone it back a bit.

So far I think it's completely okay to be disappointed with what we've seen with pets. Beta has been going on for a while now, and we have seen very little in the ways of anything new. Personally, I don't count foxes, mastifs, and monkies. I see them as reskinned wolves and gorillas. I don't think you should take it all as solid right now, but do feel free to voice your concern, both here and on the beta forums.

you misunderstood - it was a joke referencing the Sand People from Star Wars

[Ket Shi]

I doubt there will be as many pets introduced in Cataclysm as there were in Burning Crusade/Northrend... Much of this expansion takes place in old territory, with many of the newer locales featuring elementals, dragons, and underwater creatures. But remember, this is still beta, and as others have said, it's too early to make judgment calls. Worgen are not complete, the end-game zones and dungeons aren't ready for testing, talent trees and masteries are getting monkeyed with all the time, pet talents and abilities haven't even been retouched...

I'd reserve final judgment until the game is more complete. How can we claim that there will be no interesting pets or that our abilities will be broken when there's some months left of developing and polishing left to go? It's likely that some of the neat new creatures from the concept art will never be made, but it's possible new skins and models will appear in the near future.

On the subject of new families, I'd certainly say that a big mean talbuk or stag sounds like a more realistic fighting companion than a crab or fox. All the same, though, I think that mastiff dogs, foxes, monkeys, and the new skins are a very welcome addition. I know a lot of you guys will be sad that there's not as many novel critters, but the expansion of the number of stable slots has given every hunter tremendous flexibility. There's hundreds of different looks to choose from, and I'm going to delight in plucking out my 25 from the crowd. I don't care that some of the models date from 2004 and look a little clunky, I'm going to enjoy the heck out of having stable space for a pink worm named Gummi.

[Protego]

I'm so, so not "awe-inspired" by the current new Tameables. The "all-new" "dogs" and "foxes" don't really "awesome-inspire" me. I wanted brand-new Exotics that could compete with Devilsaurs! With most of the zones revealed there's not gonna be any "surprise" pet(s) coming up. I'm an optimist. But... I dunno. I do know about stags having diets. That's interesting. And they're 4th expansion'll be better. 'Cause then it'll be a all-new, fresh land(s).

[cowmuflage]

Whats with every one only just wanting new exotics i mean not all of us are BM. Would be better if they were just new normal ones every one can get.

[Slickrock]

Whats with every one only just wanting new exotics i mean not all of us are BM. Would be better if they were just new normal ones every one can get.

And no exotics at all? let's just delete BM and be done with it. shall we?..

emo arguments aside, there should be pets for both. But Blizz needs to fix pets overall, and get the damage and abilities to make sense and be competitive.

We need Blizz to fix it so it's not just wolf/trex for raiding. We need other normals, rares and exotics to make things interesting.

[Kalliope]

there should be pets for both. But Blizz needs to fix pets overall, and get the damage and abilities to make sense and be competitive.

We need Blizz to fix it so it's not just wolf/trex for raiding. We need other normals, rares and exotics to make things interesting.

Yeppppp. Still waiting on the pet pass.

But as has been said already, classes and races aren't done yet, and pets are much lower on the priority list. So yeah, we have some waiting ahead.

[Ket Shi]

We need Blizz to fix it so it's not just wolf/trex for raiding. We need other normals, rares and exotics to make things interesting.

That's their plan; they just haven't gotten around to it yet. If I remember right, they want each pet family to carry a useful debuff.

We are also changing many pet family abilities to provide important buffs and debuffs. The intention is to allow the hunter to be able to swap pets and fill a position if a certain role is missing from the group. The goal is to have all pets provide a damage increase that is very similar and no greater than any other pet. Some examples of the changes we are making to the pet families are listed below:

* Wind Serpents: Will provide a debuff that increases the amount of spell damage taken by an enemy (similar to a weaker version of the warlock ability Curse of Elements).
* Ravagers: Will provide a debuff that will increase an enemy's Physical damage vulnerability (similar to a weaker version of the warrior ability Blood Frenzy).
* Hyenas: Will provide bleed damage (similar to a weaker version of the druid ability Mangle).

[zedxrgal]

So far I admit that I'm a bit disappointed. But yes it's still early and the major pet passes have not been performed yet. We'll wait and see. I won't put to strong a hope into new pets simply because if it doesn't happen I don't want to be even further disappointed.
Yes I might not roll new hunters if things stay as they are now.

As much as I dislike it we'll all just have to wait and see. No need to get in to much of a huff yet. It's not the time for. Now if it's October 25 and things haven't changed then that's probably the time to start getting huffy.