Rant Thread

[cowmuflage]

Cow, no one here said they were better then the vet, Miyon said she talked to a 2nd vet on the phone that sounded much more reliable then the first one, its in the quote you made when you made your rant about people thinking they're better then vets

I did not say anyone was better than the vet.

[Makoes]

My daughter is just being really bratty and my BF forgot to clean her tray off last night when he feed her, and got piussy when I wanted him to clean it off so i could feed her lunch. I really dont care if your playing your call of duty game...clean her tray off and join the next game. She's crying cuz her foods ready but she has no clean tray o eat it on.

And my kid is being bratty today which sucks, Ive already gotten hit in the head with her sippy cup and have a nice lil headache going on, stressed from the lip I got from my BF for getting him to finish what he sould have last night. Mikayla's getting into everything today, papers, remotes, computers, stuff on the table...anything and everything she should not be going for she is... BF doesnt work till 6pm today, you'd think he'd atleast be a little more helpful with our kid...but he's to busy being mad at me...and its snowing to boot. which isnt so bad, I like the snow, but its just cold and wet.

[Miyon]

Yeah cats are werid you'd think not showing symptoms would be good but it's worse than showing them. I only said that becouse some people on this forum tend to go down that route ya know? It's not a good road to walk.

I know. Hence why I said

They don't look sick, though I know that might not necessarily be a good thing.

Not showing any signs of being sick at all could be very dangerous, and the cat might even be dying the next day. I know that.

I did not say anyone was better than the vet.

I know you didn't say that, but the way you worded yourself could make it sound like it, if people read it the wrong way. I know you didn't mean it though, don't worry. No hard feelings. Being able to make out what tone of voice is also very hard in just text.

I don't necessarily don't know what is best for my babies, but I do know that I want them to be healthy and good, and I am having a second opinion from another vet. Try googling the disease I listed earlier. They have diarrhea, and are slightly dehydrated, that's about it. I can see no bowels trying to escape their behinds, which would be a quite visible symptom if they had that disease. I'm not trying to stir things up here, though. I don't want any flaming across the boards unecessarily.

[Chimera]

Theres a lot of different diseases that come from the outdoors, and some waterborn ones cause diarrhea-- diarrhea causes dehydration cause the feces are very liquid, theres more water being expelled with it then there is being drunk and absorbed by the animal. Just talk to the vet, if you are absolutely confident they know what they are doing then try their instructions, maybe also ask them if a blood test is needed and that will pick up traces of worms or diseases.

A perfect example is first hand experience the person whose course im taking to work as a zookeeper/wrangler experienced where one of his horses, young, healthy, happy showed no signs of worms, they gave all their horses worm medication for that part of the year to keep them healthy, and the next day they discovered worms a meter long crawling through the muck he left behind that was a result of the medicine. If you can afford it safely, definitely try to get the neccessary tests done to be absolutely sure so they can live well.

The blood tests will also pick up anything that might be wrong with them that isnt causing their current symptoms, its a great way to forsee possible complications later in life. One of Lucky's kidneys enzymes are higher % then they should be but is still functional. Hes very happy, healthy, but a cat can change health extremely quickly, in a matter of days or months they can end up to the point where its cruel to keep them alive. Because of the blood test we can keep track of his kidneys enzymes and predict one possible outcome for him as he ages and try to stall its degradation if possible so he can live happy for a longer period of time.

All in all, it never hurts to get a blood test done, its a good thing to include in yearly check-ups to ensure they're growing up healthy.

[Miyon]

Thanks for a proper reply, Xakaal.
They actually didn't find anything at all on the bloodtests, so what I was told is that it was partially perineal hernia, which sounds fishy to me. No worms, no nothing. I think it's strange.

I wish we were able to keep them indoors in the first place though. I won't give up until I know what is wrong, and when I know what I can do to make them better. I usually never bond with animals due to my allergy, but when I do, I have troubles letting go.

Finding a good vet is hard, it's like finding a good doctor or a dentist.

[CrystalKitten]

Just out of curiosity, Miyon.. but have you had a fecal done yet? I would assume so as that's usually one of the very first steps to diagnosing a parasitic problem, but you didn't mention it. It might be something to suggest if all your vets are immediately jumping to some of the more expensive diseases/treatments/tests.

[Makoes]

The Rules of Rant Thread:

1. Don't argue. This is a thread for sharing frustrations, not for debate.
2. Don't derail. Offering your sympathy is great, and sometimes a quick suggestion can help a lot, but that's not the primary purpose of this thread.
3. Don't rant about people or situations on this forum. (If you need to do that, feel free to PM me. I can always listen to a good rant.)
4. Keep the descriptions of injuries and illnesses to a graphical minimum. Some of us are eating here!

Can you pleace take the cat stuff to the PM's...this isnt a vet thread.

[Miyon]

Just out of curiosity, Miyon.. but have you had a fecal done yet? I would assume so as that's usually one of the very first steps to diagnosing a parasitic problem, but you didn't mention it. It might be something to suggest if all your vets are immediately jumping to some of the more expensive diseases/treatments/tests.

I must honestly say I don't know, as it was not I who took her to the vet, and I only got third party information. I will have to find the norwegian term for it, and then I will suggest it. The first vet I spoke to, told me to have them dewormed, and the people who own the cats have yet to have it done. I do not know much of cats, and less about diseases and different tests, so that question sort of lit up my brain, and I started thinking forward.

I read up on the fecal to see what they did and so on, and found a link about "Tritrichomonas foetus". I was away for three days at some point, and the litterbox was filled with poo everywhere, and some of it got in the food I think, at least the litter did. If they have been eating each others poo, that parasite would cause the symptoms they have. I wonder if I should suggest that, and make them do a PCR aswell. It might not even be close to what is wrong, however. I wonder if that parasite is visible, or if it is very microscopic.

[Miyon]

The Rules of Rant Thread:

1. Don't argue. This is a thread for sharing frustrations, not for debate.
2. Don't derail. Offering your sympathy is great, and sometimes a quick suggestion can help a lot, but that's not the primary purpose of this thread.
3. Don't rant about people or situations on this forum. (If you need to do that, feel free to PM me. I can always listen to a good rant.)
4. Keep the descriptions of injuries and illnesses to a graphical minimum. Some of us are eating here!

Can you pleace take the cat stuff to the PM's...this isnt a vet thread.

I'm sorry, it didn't occur to me at all.

[Worba]

Well, some of the medical descriptions were a tad... graphic. ^ ^

However I think a separate thread in the offtopic forum should be fine, as long as it has [explicit] in its title.

[Miyon]

Well, some of the medical descriptions were a tad... graphic. ^ ^

However I think a separate thread in the offtopic forum should be fine, as long as it has [explicit] in its title.

I had to scroll up to see where the graphics were.. xD
I very rarely have problems with that myself, so I don't think about that others might find it.. repelling? xD I mean, I watch house while eating, or animal planet or whatever is there at the time.

I didn't want to make a separate thread, because I didn't want to draw too close attention to it, in case anyone near me where to snoop around. I don't want to look like I am talking down on the people I love, but we'll take it to pm's I suppose.

[Worba]

I don't mind it personally - for me, being an animal geek overrides my normal squeamishness somewhat, but I could see how someone like Makoes might have a different reaction. So I just suggested it as a way to please everyone.

[cowmuflage]

When you go into a bar and order a rum and coke and it's like 90% ice 8% coke and 2% rum. Yeah I so wanted a watery rum flavored coke >.> How am I ment to get drunk off that? Jeez I now remmber why I don't buy anything else apart from beer at bars.

[Lisaara]

When you go into a bar and order a rum and coke and it's like 90% ice 8% coke and 2% rum. Yeah I so wanted a watery rum flavored coke >.> How am I ment to get drunk off that? Jeez I now remmber why I don't buy anything else apart from beer at bars.

I make sure they make mine 90% coke, 8% rum, 2% ice. XD

[Makoes]

The inflated prices at bars along with the watered down beverages, I really dont like ordering drinks out. The most me and my friends do is toss our money together to get a few pitchers of beer to share.
I hate having no money right now, being broke just plain sucks!! Christmas is on the way, and its going to be pretty lean...



I am not particualarly squimish about stuff, but the thread was getting derailed, and that kinda gets to me.

[cowmuflage]

When you go into a bar and order a rum and coke and it's like 90% ice 8% coke and 2% rum. Yeah I so wanted a watery rum flavored coke >.> How am I ment to get drunk off that? Jeez I now remmber why I don't buy anything else apart from beer at bars.

I make sure they make mine 90% coke, 8% rum, 2% ice. XD

XD nice. I drank way to much last night it was my mates 21st so he had it at a bar becouse 21st's are a big deal here and well the bar had $4 beers and spirits. Man did I regret it this morning! was fun tho.

[Lisaara]

I'm a wuss with alcohol. XD

[Miyon]

Your signature picture is so cute, Taluwen, so many tiny colourful raptor babies

[CrystalKitten]

This research is REALLY boring.. I don't mind research as long as there's some leeway... I love looking up stuff that I have chosen.. whether it be the main topic, or the sub topic... But this is SOOO freaking specific. I have to look up the effects of retinoic acid, PTU, and LiCl on the development of gastrulation stage zebrafish embryos... SO.. this is INSANELY specific.. and it's so boring.. and the retinoic acid one.. all the research is pretty much 20 years old.. because anything more recent that mentions it is looking at the reverse (so.. what happens if you PREVENT retinoic acid) and the effects of retinoic acid are considered enough common knowledge that hardly any of the recent papers specifically reference the old papers.. just say "the effects have been documented, so what happens if we prevent it instead" *headdesk* It's due on tuesday too.. and I still have at LEAST 2 papers to read through before I can even think about starting on the writing.. and I have no idea how I'm going to write the damn thing... And Penguin is being all cute right beside me... it's not helping... it wants to be petted (not really.. but how can I resist the cuteness) ...

[Azunara]

Waiting is still incredibly hard to do. *sigh.*

And more upsetting: My stomach feels weird.