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Come on now, guys. I know we're upset and worried about the kitten, but sometimes people don't know any better and have good intentions. To be honest, I didn't know Pepto-Bismol was fatal for cats/kittens. I wouldn't give it to them just because I personally wouldn't give my pets any form of human medication, but I can understand why a person would try to go that route if they didn't understand the possible harm it could cause.

So please, rather than beat Rawr up about it (which isn't going to help her or anyone else), just try to offer the best advice we can and hope and/or pray for the best.

Good luck, Rawr. Please keep us updated on the little guy. :)

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Rhyela wrote:Come on now, guys. I know we're upset and worried about the kitten, but sometimes people don't know any better and have good intentions. To be honest, I didn't know Pepto-Bismol was fatal for cats/kittens. I wouldn't give it to them just because I personally wouldn't give my pets any form of human medication, but I can understand why a person would try to go that route if they didn't understand the possible harm it could cause.

So please, rather than beat Rawr up about it (which isn't going to help her or anyone else), just try to offer the best advice we can and hope and/or pray for the best.
We did - I advised her pepto bismol is potentially fatal to cats, and to get him to the vet asap.

Ryai and I were coming from a place of concern.

I am and have been an animal lover all my life, and love cats in particular, so the fact Rawr is a cat owner by itself makes her awesome in my book... but, don't ask me to have a dispassionate response when it appears the kitten's treatment is being delayed, and he is being given regular doses of something that can kill him - I wasn't angry at Rawr, just EXTREMELY concerned for her baby, and that's why I came on strong.

For that I make zero apologies.

And like everyone else, I am very hopeful that her little guy makes it through ok. /prays
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I wasnt beating no one up least id on't think i was O.o
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Best rule of thumb for cats is if it's not indicated for a cat DO NOT USE IT. A cat has a weird system to the point that even using a pet shampoo not indicated for cats can cause severe medical issues.

Consistent vomiting can be a multitude of things from the most severe yes being a blockage or poisoning. House plants that wouldn't phase a dog can and will be fatal to a cat. The symptoms of most poisonings are yes lethargia and vomiting but can also including swelling and diarrhea. Food allergies are another major cause of vomiting in cats and kittens. That's the breaks of owning certain cats. Issue is it takes two to three weeks of being on a certain food before the cat will show symptoms. This is another reason why most vet strongly advise against giving a cat human foods. For one, human foods aren't healthy and two it could potentially make the animal very sick.

It's vitally important to get your dog/cat to the vet asap on ANY consistent vomiting. If it's not a hairball then the vet needs to at the very least called and made aware. I learned a lot about pet food allergies when working with /in vet clinics and in the care of my own pets.

Vomiting is very serious and requires a call in. I hope the kitten made it to the vet.

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Rhyela wrote:Come on now, guys. I know we're upset and worried about the kitten, but sometimes people don't know any better and have good intentions. To be honest, I didn't know Pepto-Bismol was fatal for cats/kittens. I wouldn't give it to them just because I personally wouldn't give my pets any form of human medication, but I can understand why a person would try to go that route if they didn't understand the possible harm it could cause.

So please, rather than beat Rawr up about it (which isn't going to help her or anyone else), just try to offer the best advice we can and hope and/or pray for the best.

Good luck, Rawr. Please keep us updated on the little guy. :)
You should research things before you give them to your pet, it doesn't matter if you didn't know, you should make yourself know.

I can't tell you the amount of times I've heard people say there dog/cat is throwing up continuously, and they decide to wait it out and something terrible happens. It is very important that you take the kitten to the vet, especially since you have given the kitten pepto.

Sorry if any of this came off as rude, it wasn't meant to be. But seriously you need to take that kitten to the vet.
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No News about it... Hope she hasn,t hurt the poor Cat!
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I hope the poor thing isn't dead.

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:shock: wow, my bad I forgot to update u guys. After my last post I went over and spent the night at a friend's house, who is a vet tech (she agreed to help even tho she was very busy, thanks Lulu :hug: ), and she says very small amounts of pepto are ok. Also Lord Marrowgar is just fine. Apparently cats/kittens can eat too much too fast, like dogs sometimes do, and thats what happened. He ate too much too fast got sick because of it and then was really dehydrated all that day and the next, and thats why he was so sluggish. After he got some fluids in him and some very tiny bites of food he was better. Lord Marrowgar is back to terrorizing Stormy, tackling ankles, and running into walls chasing dust bunnies :lol: I'll post new picks of him after I get the camera back from my boyfriend. :geek:

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Your Vet friend is wrong.
and she says very small amounts of pepto are ok.
NO.

http://maxshouse.com/Drugs_To_Avoid_in_Cats.html

ANTIHISTAMINES AND DECONGESTANTS (PSEUDOEPHIDRINE, CONTACT, BENADRYL, CHLOR-TRIMATON, etc.) Dosages are not well established in cats for these drugs, and these should not be used without
express consent from a veterinarian. These drugs can cause depression, , hyperexcitability, , vomiting, fever, muscle tremors, rapid or depressed heart rates, disorientation, and seizures.



ASPIRIN (ACETYLSALICYLIC ACID, SALICYLATE) Pepto-Bismol


Sources Many analgesic, antiinflammatory, antipyretic, and anticliartheal (Pepto-Bismol) agents that contain salicylates are sold as OTC preparations. Some keratolytic products contain salicylates.

Mechanism of action Acetylsalicylic acid inhibits cyclooxygenase, which then inhibits production of certain prostaglandins, including protective prostaglandins of the E series. High levels are known to directly stimulate the respiratory center (early) to cause an initial respiratory alkalosis. High doses are also known to uncouple' oxidative phosphorylation and may cause hyperglycemia and glycosuria.

Clinical signs The biologic half-life of aspirin is 7.5 to 8 hours in dogs and 38 to 45 hours in cats at a dose of 25 mg/kg/day. The toxic dose in cats is >25 mg/kg/day in cats and >50 mg/kg/day in dogs. Signs are noted within 4 to 6 hours after ingestion of a toxic dose and include depression, vorniting, anorexia and lethargy, tachypnea (caused by initial respiratory alkalosis), and hyperthermia. The vomitus may be blood-tinged from GI ulceration. CNS depression leads to muscle weakness and ataxia; coma and death can occur within I or more days. Gastrointestinal ulceration or perforation may be seen after the administration of repeated doses over several days' duration. Anemia, bone marrow depression, Heinz body formation (cats), and toxic hepatitis may occur.
I am sorry but your vet friend is WRONG and the pepto probably almost made this worse. Do NOT listen to her and I really hope you NEVER give your cat pepto again Rawr. Do not listen to her. And once again please don't give your cat human medicine unless a real vet, in a vetrinary office, says 'ok I have this special cat safe shit for you to use'. Because unless it's cat safe, chances are it's not safe to use.
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Ryai wrote:I am sorry but your vet friend is WRONG and the pepto probably almost made this worse. Do NOT listen to her and I really hope you NEVER give your cat pepto again Rawr. Do not listen to her. And once again please don't give your cat human medicine unless a real vet, in a vetrinary office, says 'ok I have this special cat safe shit for you to use'. Because unless it's cat safe, chances are it's not safe to use.
I'm a former Vet Tech and no vet I've EVER worked with has every said it's 'ok' to give a cat pepto bismol. Yes you could have very well made him throw up the second day in a row simply because a cat's digestive system is nothing like any other species on this planet. As I said in my first post if it's not indicated for a feline do not give it to your feline. Unless yes it's prescribed by a licensed veterinarian. Vet tech are not veterinarians!!!! Your friend could have given you advise that would /could have made you little fuzz ball even more violently sick if not killed him.

Foundling cats and kittens who were out on the lam a really long time will be immediately wolfing down food to the point of illness, not waiting. Rarely however does it pop up out of the blue like this since you've had him about three weeks correct? Something other then wolfing down food made him sick I'm willing to bet. My guess is either 1) he could have a mild allergy to what he's eating or 2) he ingested something else that made him ill. If it's the former in another week or two, maybe three he'll be sick. If it's the latter that is unknown simply because of lord only knows what the small one had gotten into.

When it comes to medicating a pet always only listen to a licensed vet! :)

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Also you said the vet tech said that she was sick because she ate to fast like dogs do?

If a dog eats to fast they can get bloat, which is when their stomach turns on itself which is fatal if not treated right away. So I don't see how she could make that comparison.
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I'll trade you your crazy, wild ankle-crasher for a counter kitty! She's cute, loves to cuddle and likes to steal your food, surf your counters and dig in your sinks for food.

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