Midnight Alpha/Beta Thread

[worgpower]

I hope haranir will be testable on the beta so i can test the Florafaun pets and their functionality, i hope the reward is not locked behind something too timegated, im ok with farming elites for the tome like the bone binding tome rather than a high renown level or a raid drop. If renown is the case, the renown level for the reward should be 10 or lower and class wide

[worgpower]

I just saw news that beta is set to release on November 11th and haranir will be testable, maybe this will be the time to find out about the taming skill and test the Florafaun pets

[Valnaaros]

Found it



First Florafaun Tame










This will probably be reduced in size

[worgpower]

OMG VALNAAROS YOU ARE THE GOAT, what is the source

[Valnaaros]

OMG VALNAAROS YOU ARE THE GOAT, what is the source

Thanks! Yes, the Space Goat

I think that it drops off of rares. I was just trying various things, like looting treasures and such, and decided to kill Queen Lashtongue (see below), and she dropped it. I don't think that she is the only one that can drop it, but at least we know that she can.

[WerebearGuy]

My reaction to seeing the item is a drop: HELL YEAH!
My reaction to seeing the size of the devilsaurs: THAT BOY IS THICK!

I know the devilsaurs will shrink later, but man. I would LOVE if they were that size for at least the hunter with the pet. Shrink it for everyone else, but let the one who has it tamed see it as big as it is there.

[Valnaaros]

So for Chloroceros, alongside needing the Florafaun taming book, you still need the Direhorn taming book.

There is a Light Devilsaptor that currently is classified as a Raptor. That'll likely be fixed, I imagine.

Light Devilsaptors are also a bit larger than normal ones.


















I also grabbed some shots of a few of the new beasts so you all can get an idea of their size post-tame







Nothing new, but this rare retains its name after taming




Also, Mandragoras on Draenor are tamable (not all, but most), and most of the named ones retain their name (only Biolante doesn't).

Also, the Light Mandragoras use a different skeleton than the old ones. The old ones have a problem where the middle head, noticeably, clips through its neck. The Light Mandragora doesn't have this problem.

[Ragnarok1127]

I’m definitely quite disappointed that those Snap Lizards are so small, but everything else is sick! I’m definitely grabbing a plant snake.

[WerebearGuy]

I don't mind the old mandragora neck clipping, but hopefully they can retroactively apply the animations of the lightbloom mandragora to the older hydra models like they're doing for the dreamrunners. Either way, I love how small the plant monsters are (minus the devilsaptors, obviously). The capybara is huge, and I love that as well. Reminds me of the good old days with the giant baby direhorns. I hope the capybaras don't get scaled down.

EDIT: Regarding the "raptor" devilsaptor, it's not that the light version is bigger. Instead, it's the scaling applied to raptors that is making the devilsaptor Xbox huge. Raptors get scaled up when tamed, compared to devilsaurs which get scaled down. This is why tamed raptors are as big as they are. This is like how the clefthoof armoredon is so tiny, as clefthooves get scaled down quite a bit when tamed compared to scalehides. This makes me wish we could tame beasts at different sizes, kind of like how Palworld has alpha pals that are larger than normal.

[worgpower]

The size of most of the plant beasts, the amazard and capybara have perfect size scaling when tamed, choloceros could be slightly bigger but I don’t mind too much, I’m also wondering how long giant devilsaptors will last, also does mend pet work on elementals/florafaun

[Valnaaros]

The size of most of the plant beasts, the amazard and capybara have perfect size scaling when tamed, choloceros could be slightly bigger but I don’t mind too much, I’m also wondering how long giant devilsaptors will last, also does mend pet work on elementals/florafaun

It works just fine. There aren’t any bugs with healing or rezzing them.

I personally wouldn’t mind the Amazards being a little bit bigger.

[worgpower]

That’s great, they probably put more effort into them since the skill is baked into haranir. Are elementals immune or vulnerable to anything, like classification specific abilities

[Valnaaros]

That’s great, they probably put more effort into them since the skill is baked into haranir. Are elementals immune or vulnerable to anything, like classification specific abilities

I think that Shamans have something.

[worgpower]

Yeah shamans definitely could destroy them, I know elementals are immune to hibernate and scare beast, and they are also immune to DH imprison, undead are the same. They are basically like undead pets, florafaun are most likely going to be the best PvP pet since they are immune to beast ccs, and are not vulnerable to shackle undead and wake of ashes like undead. If there’s any ccs that elementals are vulnerable to, please list it, otherwise the mortal wounds florafaun are the new best pets for PvP

[WerebearGuy]

Warlocks can banish elementals. That's about it. Though to be fair, I don't think I've EVER seen a warlock in arenas, let alone one that specifically banishes elementals. Florafaun will definitely be an annoying foe in pvp.

[worgpower]

I guess we found new immunity pet kings, Florafaun will be the new go tos, because in Florafaun we have devilsaptors, choloceroses, saptors, and petalwings, four different families and looks as opposed to the two families undead can use which is raptors and devilsaurs. Because we got spec switching back, we got more options to choose from for Mortal wounds PvP. 4 elemental families for BM, 2 undead families for BM. 3 elemental families for SV, and only one undead family in SV

Edit - almost forgot one more, which is mandragoras

[DannyGreen]

Lil dissapointed with how small some of the pets are, kind of expected the lizards to be kodo sized.

[WerebearGuy]

The amazards would be nice if they were bigger, but that'd also translate them to being longer too. Have you seen how ridiculously long they are? Their tails are LONG. Granted, we've had no good screenshots of the amazards from any angle except their derpy front angle (and you can't say they don't look like they have negative IQ; they genuinely look like they're dumb as hell), but looking at their model from the side on the model viewers? They're probably the second longest pet, behind the arcane wyrms in the serpent family.

Using Valnaaros' screenshot as a guideline, I threw this mockup together. Getting the right frames and whatnot is hard, and cropping the images properly is even harder thanks to Wowhead's obnoxious black background that triggers the hell out of the magic wand tool in every art program, but this is approximately what we're looking at. If the amazard was any bigger, that tail length would scale proportionately to how tall they become, and considering its lengthy proportions, scaling it up to kodo size (which is TALLER than male draenei), you'd have something that would be obnoxiously huge. It'd be easy to be disruptive with a large amazard.

I'm all for obnoxiously huge pets, but outside of my own personal interest, them being bigger would be bad overall purely because of how much screen space it'd take up. While this is not the tallest pet, it's still massive. Hopefully one of our alpha testers can grab a better screenshot to properly show how massive these things are ingame. That, or we wait til next week and go see for ourselves on beta. I already look forward to my toxic combo of Bestial Wrath + Big Red Raygun making them uncomfortably girthy.

[worgpower]

Yeah I thought the size of the amazards are perfect, they are not the only lengthy big lizard, as we have salamanthers, but amazards are the beefiest. I wonder how the choloceros compare since they are almost the same size as amazards, but slightly beefier

[Wain]

The amazards would be nice if they were bigger, but that'd also translate them to being longer too. Have you seen how ridiculously long they are? Their tails are LONG.

I'm all for obnoxiously huge pets, but outside of my own personal interest, them being bigger would be bad overall purely because of how much screen space it'd take up.

That's a really good point. I was going to put in a suggestion they could be a little bigger but I hadn't considered their overall length. They probably are abut right as a result. Though even if they were made a bit bigger, at least their tail length isn't likely to impede player's views.