Midnight Alpha/Beta Thread

[Wain]

Aroim pointed out to me that Glorious Spring (a friendly dreamrunner east of the city) is now just pink (it could previously have a range of colours).

It's interactive, in that you can pet it, so perhaps there's also some way of making it angry. Killing other dreamrunners on top of it doesn't seem to do the trick.

There are a few other NPCs in that area that can be patted so there may no other significance to it at all.

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[WerebearGuy]

The area you marked is like a little animal sanctuary. I forget which NPCs talk about it, but that area is intended to be a little safe spot where animal can be raised in a stable environment. Wouldn't be right if we could up and steal them from an animal sanctuary. Glorious Dawn fills the role of the "poster" animal I'd assume, and that'd be pretty scummy if we could just go up to that area, make it angry, and then steal it from its safe space. Think of it like a more humane version of the Darkmoon Faire's petting zoo and Suramar's Menagerie.

I like that area. It's just so relaxing. Sure, we can attack things outside the bounds of the Estate, but inside? Let them live in peace.

[Valnaaros]

Yeah, I don’t think that is what Glorious Spring is meant for. They probably just picked pink for no particular reason. It wouldn’t make sense if we could go in and go against the whole purpose of the sanctuary.

[Aroim]

You're probably right, I just found it strange that he was standing so apart, not with the other friendly ones, he's right next to neutral runners ^^

[Valnaaros]

Here is what I think might’ve happened to the Pink Springrunner: recently, Blizz reshuffled the looks on the mobs in Eversong, namely Hawkstriders, Toads, and Springrunners, so that now they all only have a couple of looks per mob rather than a ton.

It is entirely possible that the Pink Springrunner was just accidentally not added to anything that is tamable. They may have seen the friendly ones and not realized that they were friendly and could not be tamed.

I don’t see it being removed to make into a special tame (possible, but I doubt it), especially since that hasn’t happened to any other look for any of the new beasts of Midnight, and even in the case of one that was unique (white Hawkstrider), it was made non-unique.

[worgpower]

What bothered me a lot in beta is that there was a few beast looks created to be untameable and it made me drag my hands along my eyes. Of course they created pink dreamrunners and only put them on untameable npcs, and what’s worse is if you go to voidstorm, it’s filled with a variety of beasts that are untameable meanwhile they should, like ultradons, harrowers, the remaining blistercreeps, and those flyers from K’aresh are also there which are flagged as beasts.

I also found a small bug earlier that unlearned the Florafaun taming skill, idk if it just disappears or if it’s from copying account data. But I was easily able to get it back from killing a beast rare. I think that skill only drops from beasts and other Florafaun creatures

[Valnaaros]

IMO, if there are special tames, it should be for unique looks, like they did with the Tiger Loa model or the Drust Animals. Taking a normal look and just making it unique to one special tame, imo, isn’t worth it. For Dragonhawks, as an example, it would be like removing the green look and putting it on a special tame, when the Light Dragonhawk would be a far better choice.

[Valnaaros]

What bothered me a lot in beta is that there was a few beast looks created to be untameable and it made me drag my hands along my eyes. Of course they created pink dreamrunners and only put them on untameable npcs, and what’s worse is if you go to voidstorm, it’s filled with a variety of beasts that are untameable meanwhile they should, like ultradons, harrowers, the remaining blistercreeps, and those flyers from K’aresh are also there which are flagged as beasts.

I also found a small bug earlier that unlearned the Florafaun taming skill, idk if it just disappears or if it’s from copying account data. But I was easily able to get it back from killing a beast rare. I think that skill only drops from beasts and other Florafaun creatures

Ultradons could fit into Scalehides, and Blistercreeps into Blood Beasts. Harrowers are bat-like, but they aren’t bats. They would be better in their own unique family with Rockflayers. The Void Flyers are just too unique to really fit into anything currently. Same the Siphoids and Spore Jellies.

Yes, the Florafaun tome drops from rares in Harandar.

[Valnaaros]

You're probably right, I just found it strange that he was standing so apart, not with the other friendly ones, he's right next to neutral runners ^^

Yes, I’ve seen him there before and the others near him, but I don’t think that is what he is meant for. It’s possible, sure, but I don’t think so. I think an error was just made when the look reshuffling happened in Eversong.

[WerebearGuy]

Honestly, the pink ones being limited to friendly NPCs makes them feel more special. This isn't the first time unique looks were limited to friendly NPCs, and the area they're in being a sanctuary just makes them all the more unique. While I absolutely love the idea of taming all the things, I feel that this is a case where we SHOULDN'T be able to get them. The shuffling, as Valnaaros mentioned, definitely gave the zones more diversity as some colors are now in their own unique locations. The pink dreamrunners can easily be played off as a rare variant that needed to be protected. The area is littered with "Conservator" NPCs, and conservation specialists do the respectable work of making sure that critically endangered and vulnerable species are given sanctuary from would-be poachers. What do poachers do? They take rare things to sell or flaunt, much like we do as hunters when we get our trophy tames. I'm totally going against everything hunter, but the pink dreamrunners should stay out of our reach. It makes them feel more special.

As for the white hawkstrider, I finally found one in the wild. It's like a stupidly low chance off of two different but neighboring hawkstrider types south of Silvermoon and northeast of the sanctum southwest from silvermoon (not ingame right now, forgot its name). Them being a rare skin color is nice, but I'm still gonna be the guy that goes out of his way to look for the named rare just so I can have the name lol. I know I'm contradicting myself after just stating what I did about the pink dreamrunner, but whatever. The white one isn't in the sanctuary lol

[Aroim]

yeah, error it is probable I had noticed that the runners had an unusually large number of NPCs with the same name but different IDs. Maybe something got mixed up or something. D:

You're probably right, I just found it strange that he was standing so apart, not with the other friendly ones, he's right next to neutral runners ^^

Yes, I’ve seen him there before and the others near him, but I don’t think that is what he is meant for. It’s possible, sure, but I don’t think so. I think an error was just made when the look reshuffling happened in Eversong.

[Wain]

People were looking forward to the pink one more than any, I don't think they should be untameable. As long as it's not in the form of some elite shit like that fire owl. Or some rare that a lot of people are going to grief each other over.

[Aroim]

yes! I flew through the zone and thought to myself: "Where are my pink unicorns!?"

Hopefully not such shit again :/

People were looking forward to the pink one more than any, I don't think they should be untameable. As long as it's not in the form of some elite shit like that fire owl. Or some rare that a lot of people are going to grief each other over.

[Valnaaros]

People were looking forward to the pink one more than any, I don't think they should be untameable. As long as it's not in the form of some elite shit like that fire owl. Or some rare that a lot of people are going to grief each other over.

I agree. I think that it was just reshuffled onto some mobs (Glorious Spring isn’t the only one that is pink) that are technically tamable, but cant be since they are friendly and they didn’t realize that when they reshuffled them. If it is meant to be unique, it needs to be something that can be easily accessible or achievable with some effort (though I do still think that tames like this should be for more unique models).

Also, just as a note, usually when there are multiple NPCs that share the same name (such as Roving Springrunner), it is because there is either a special emote or movement they are supposed to be doing, they are different sized, are meant to spawn dead, etc. An example is the Juvenile Ghostclaw, where most are one ID but the ones that are chasing each other around are another ID.

[WerebearGuy]

Recent argument aside, I was running around with a hawkstrider for a while, just kind of getting a feel for if I like having one or not (still burnt from all the questing I did), and I gotta say; this feels good. The new hawkstrider model is actually really good. Sure, I could just stare at the model viewer's animations, but seeing it in different lighting, running around at my side, keeping up with me as we run forward and seeing it sprint when entering combat... why did it take so long for these guys to be added lol. Tallstriders deserved SOMETHING since they've been mostly unloved outside of the weird naked chicken model from Dragonflight (how were they not lesser dragonkin anyway?). Sporebats and Direhorns got some incredible love too with their new forms, but I feel like Hawkstriders are monumental additions. These are perfect for blood elf hunters, more so than anything other than mana wyrms. Mana wyrms also turned out really good. They're a nice size when tamed, the new model is almost 1:1 with the original BC cinematic, and they just look so exotic and fanciful.

This is in addition to my love of the updated Eversong Lynx models and plant hydras that I've absolutely adored. The more I do on beta, the more I love what we're being given. I already liked what I saw from screenshots and the model viewer, and I just keep being more and more excited the more I have these new critters at my side. I originally planned to just rock a new Eversong lynx until I could get a mandragora, but having run with everything I could (minus voidstorm stuff, still haven't been there), I don't know what I'm gonna roll with. The art team went absolutely wild with the new stuff and I'm all for it. I'm not using the eagles or petalwings though. They need justice in the form of being able to fly. Those are my only two dislikes out of everything pet-related.

This has been my "who cares" statement. I'm so ready to just jump in to the launch, but there's more beta to test and bugs they've yet to fix (first build week, of course). I'd still play if the launch was buggy as hell like right now lol.