Pets With Appearance Buffs no longer tameable

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Re: Pets With Appearance Buffs no longer tameable

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Taluwen wrote:
TygerDarkstorm wrote:
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It is no longer possible for hunters to tame pets in a way that allows them to keep any buffs the creatures had on them prior to being tamed.
^ Quoted from MMO-Champ. If your server hasn't been updated with this fix, I'd suggest not taming anymore of these pets so as not to put your account at risk.
This ^

They know about it now. It's now against ToS practically and now they can get you for it.
Kinda sad when we live in that kind of fear of the BLizz overlords.

That being said, while it needed to be reported, it could have been handled in a better manner.
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Slickrock wrote:Kinda sad when we live in that kind of fear of the BLizz overlords.

That being said, while it needed to be reported, it could have been handled in a better manner.
I don't think anyone is 'living in fear'. It's just that the forum-posters are warning their fellows that basically it's breaking the rules. While no one would get punished for it the first time, the fact that now the player is aware of the fact it's obviously against the rules and continues to try and/or do it means that yes, you can actually be punished.

It's not really "overlord" of Blizzard to enforce rules, I guess in my opinion XD

But I'm not sure what you mean about it could've been handled in a better manner? I think they handled it in a fairly decent way. Sure, you don't get to exploit-tame pets anymore, but at least they put in patch notes this time. You didn't just login and find out you couldn't tame and receive some backhanded contridictory blue post ala Ghost Wolf fashion. The blue poster came right out and said on the thread one of the community members made on the official site a few days ago "it will be fixed/addressed".

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Tbh I think a little bit of perspective is required here. I for one am still massively grateful (and slightly shocked) as to how much Blizz have done for hunters in terms of pets, with this expansion.

So, we're not allowed some pets that clearly were not meant to be tamed in that way in the first place. I have done myself, and if I lose these pets, it's not exactly something that I wasn't expecting. Disappointed but expected.

For me, the glass is still half full (at the very least)
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Rikaku wrote:But I'm not sure what you mean about it could've been handled in a better manner?
The way we handled it here.

We've got a lurker here to keep tabs on things, and I'm sure Wain and Mainia could have asked him about it. 500 GM tickets really doesn't help.

But I won't argue with them fixing this. It was a bug, even more so than the original Spirit Wolf was.
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Slickrock wrote:
Rikaku wrote:But I'm not sure what you mean about it could've been handled in a better manner?
The way we handled it here.

We've got a lurker here to keep tabs on things, and I'm sure Wain and Mainia could have asked him about it. 500 GM tickets really doesn't help.
Ah ok. My apologies for my misunderstanding then :)

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Rikaku wrote:
Slickrock wrote:
Rikaku wrote:But I'm not sure what you mean about it could've been handled in a better manner?
The way we handled it here.

We've got a lurker here to keep tabs on things, and I'm sure Wain and Mainia could have asked him about it. 500 GM tickets really doesn't help.
Ah ok. My apologies for my misunderstanding then :)
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I'll volunteer to do a death-check tomorrow on my oiled bird.
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Surprised it's happened? Not even slightly, it obviously would. A quick fix like this solves the problem in the future permenantly and less faff than a pet by pet basis due to the amount of them there are. Yeah it sucks I'd have liked a glowy blue carrion but such is life, to think it'd never ever get shut down is incredibly naive.

I suspect stabled pets would have been safe as it's certainly possible it could risk other pets though I hope anyone who stupidly did get a damaging pet had it rightfully yoinked.
My main's a Druid so I of course love critters. That counts for something right? Right?

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Just got the news!
im happy we are allowed to keep our skins :)

BUT

Can someone check wether the Temporary skins, that were lost on death, are now permanent and persist trough death?
I have some of those as well and would love that.
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Hmm looks like I'll have to whip around ahead of the next maintenance and hope it still works.
Have they actually stopped the use of that petabandon script or have they done something more impressive (behind the scenes) to prevent keeping the buffs?

Will this also stop the "old fashioned" way of taming the oil stained worg (perfect timing)?
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Darknez, there were 4 ways to tame them, they all resulted in vanishing the pet.
Im pretty sure they simply grabbed the vanishing part by the horns, not 1 of the 4 ways by itself.
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(late)

what i meant by petition for it

is let them be tameable with the 'buffs' just make the buffs harmless.

or just make some more skins tameable.
(and not turn them all into spirit beasts..)

My wolf that i previously tamed still has a sword in his head though, is it only the temporary buffed pets that are being fixed? or if your pet was tamed with the temp buff, does it still have it?
i just saw the blue post saying they were getting rid of them now (or that it's no longer possible)
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I'm kinda upset by this if it actually did fix it, I hope they let us tame pets with unique appearances .. :(
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Yeah it really sucks, we just got 132 new skins to tame, damn Blizzard for not give us more... :lol:
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Jin wrote:Yeah it really sucks, we just got 132 new skins to tame, damn Blizzard for not give us more... :lol:
Ahhh, but it's not what they give us, it's what we take. Anyone can go out and get that funny seagull or pretty white foxes, or nauseating Hive Controller. And all the new pets look great, and I'm really grateful for that. But if we have a retired, unique skinned pet that we worked hard to get, then we feel special and want to keep renewing our accounts. *cough*Lurker*cough* :lol:
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While the downtime is still happening and may have an effect, I can report that since the hotfix as been in place the permanent appearance buffs seem to still be permanent.

Joseph's Hunting Blade was still firmly in The Lone Wolf's head after many of his, mine and our combined deaths in some heroics last night. I have not yet had a chance to test my bear being consumed or the two-headed carrion bird (but that wasn't a visible buff anyway).

So if that still holds true after the downtime I will feel good. As someone who tamed a Grimtotem way back in the day I highly covet unique pets that are not just a slightly different shade as all the rest. In a way I am glad they hotfixed this (assuming we continue to be grandfathered), those of us with a unique appearance-buffed pet now have a way to stand out. Having a pet that is truly rare and no longer obtainable helps to make my character mine.
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Tested it on two of the servers I have hunters on (Khadgar - EU; Vek'Nilash - EU) - spamming the "abandon pet" script just results in an abandoned pet for me now.


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Well with the method unable to be used anymore, there's a small list of things we can expect when the servers come back up.

- pets with this glitch are gone
- pets with this glitch have the buff removed and are now just normal
- pets with this glitch still exist but lose their buff on dying
- pets with this glitch still exist and all rules from previously still apply, including the pets that have buffs that persist after death, you just can't tame anymore

Of course, what would be GREAT is if this fix made pets with buffs that used to disappear on dying, stay with the pet permanantly now. But that's wishful thinking.

I'm too afraid to let my pets die now in case they'll lose it. D:
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Well I just logged on my server - I had a pink sparklestrider out before i logged, and it was still up when i logged in, sparkles and all.

i went to the stable master to bring out other pets, and now i can't bring out ANY pet. I put them on my active list, and the game says I have no pets available for summoning - even the legal ones, like Grunter or Chromaggus, won't summon.

:|

Edit: alright according to some other hunters I know this is a common problem that all your pets, even legit ones, become unsummonable after this patch

if you get this problem go tame a trash pet, dismiss it, call out one of your old pets and it will work again. then just abandon your trash pet and your stable will become available again.

Edit 2: Also all my pets with visual buffs are active again after taming and dismissing the trash pet, but i'm still afraid to let them die. I'll go tame a sparkly strider or something to see if the method really is broken.

Edit 3: Yeah the tame method is broken, I can't get any of em to hold anymore. At least we've still got what we've got. I have no idea if they clear on death though and I'm too chicken to try it. D:
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Logged onto SWC. Both permanent and cleanse-on-death buffs seem to be in place. Spirit wolf, bottle-crab, Princess, and Sparklestrider are all fine with me, as well as all 6 of the permanent buff pets :D
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Dialga wrote:Logged onto SWC. Both permanent and cleanse-on-death buffs seem to be in place. Spirit wolf, bottle-crab, Princess, and Sparklestrider are all fine with me, as well as all 6 of the permanent buff pets :D
Do they persist through death? :O
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