Why can't all hunters be Petopians ?

[Isaba]

I mean really... I came across http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic ... ?page=1#16 that thread on wow's forums just a moment ago and it really makes me wonder...how some people can be hunters but act so...well...assholeish is it just me who has a scewed view thinking most hunters are great people? you can see my reply to the thread on it but I really wonder.. how can some hunters kill a pet your taming or steal a tame from you it just seems so..inhuman, and stupid, I mean, killing the pet mid tame just means theres more people going after it still

[Comett]

True, true.

In a way, though, I do agree with the OP. In all honesty... in a one camp spot, no, he doesn't own it - but it's the same as the TLPD, or any other camp. Sure he doesn't "own" it but it's incredibly annoying, and so so so much nicer/politer to bugger off or log out and check back every hour or two, even add the guy to friends and ask him if he'd share the spawn time when he tamed it. I myself get really shirty sitting here in Storm Peaks when people who I *know* haven't been in the zone recently rocking up and parking at or near the spawn point I'm at... end of the day, only one person will get the spawn and it's courtesy and decency to let the person who has been there the longest get it first.

True, there is no "line" when it comes to rare spawn camping or taming, but it sitting on top of a person who's already there and laying traps down on Jadefang's spawn point to tag it as it spawns any worse than interrupting someone mid tame, really? Either way you're saying "gtfo, you can't have it"... either way you are, imo, being a douche. (Keeping in mind that hanging around for the spawn timer, or to chat, or even to see if they log or go AFK [but friends list works wonders there], is different... but in the OP, the bloke went and got a guildie, heh, so obviously it was going to be a "fight to the death" thing.)

I also loved the story about the hunter who killed someone mid-tame and then killed their tame for the achievement, getting ganked by the guy's guild for a month afterwards. P: Mean, perhaps, but god, if everyone who killed a beast mid-tame got that treatment, you'd bet your bottom dollar there'd be much less tame interrupts around haha.

[evil950510]

Nope in this world some people are just dicks. MY story follows on the same lines as the post on wow's forum. After taming all the rares of Cata I got bored, so being a companion pet collector and having already tamed Jade myself I decided to once again to camp her. Yes I know it’s sad to say I was camping her to just kill her, but I gave her respect after the deed was done. I had been there for hours when a worgen hunter (I am a Dwarf) comes in, so I just let him know that I am all ready made my camp by putting out a trap. That’s when he decides to lay out his own trap, so in the end we get into a battle of who going to get the agro be first to kill Jade. I get tried of him so I set out a bomb, which blasts him around then he sets out a bomb hoping to get me to. So the battle goes he lays down an ice trap, fire and then a bomb. I then have to run in lay down some traps and a bomb. In the end of doing this for about 20mins he gets tired and leaves. On the other hand the first time camping Jade there was Horde Orc Hunter was camping her for most of the day because I had been checking the spot off and on she was there most of the times I had checked. Any how I was up there waiting she logs on, so were both sitting up there, but after an hour I get bored so I start looking at other stuff on the web. That’s when NPC scan goes off I quickly look back at the screen and I see her killing Jade, was I angry no, maybe a little upset that I had to wait again, but she had been camping jade longer than me and she disserved the rite to tame or kill her, and she even wished me good luck after. The point of the story is some people just don't have respect for others and some people do, you just have to hope that the person that shows up has it.

[Araela]

I agree- I have never had a problem with people here, with the exception of a misunderstood post/reply every once in awhile. That being said, even after that happened the other person and I were fine - no big deal, just a misunderstanding on what was being conveyed.

I think there are three varieties of Hunters:

The Noobs: The Noobs are the ones that don't understand their class, don't read tooltips, go around taming anything that moves, don't spec their pets, don't spec themselves in a logical way, don't glyph, pull aggro by face-pulling or shooting the next trash mob, and have to ask things like, "What is MD?" They run around with tenacity pets in raids with all of the aggro pulling talents on, and don't understand why their pet keeps dying and why the raid is ticked off at them. These are the ones that give us the "You-know-what" name.

The Rude Elitists: The Rude Elitists (I didn't want to go with Elitist Jerks due to possible confusion with the website!) are the ones that feel they are entitled to whatever they want because they have specific pets, gear, statistics, etc. They will go and kill pets that other hunters are trying to tame, they will make alts and go QQ at the opposite faction for taming "THEIR" pet, or to gloat at the fact that they tamed the pet first, etc. They run around with rare pets at the spawn points to set off people's NPCScans and tease other hunters relentlessly for being fooled. They assume that they are greater than all other hunters out there because of their "leet" skills. It is all about e-peens and ego inflation for these folks.

The Petopians: The Petopians are the ones like the majority of us here, who try to re-home rare pets, help each other out with spawn information, tips, last known tamed/kill times on various Realms, etc. We congratulate each other and are excited when someone gets a new pet. We post screenshots to gloat, but not in a manner in which we are saying, "HA! SUCKS TO BE YOU, I HAVE THIS PET AND YOU DON'T!" but rather, "Look! I finally got this pet, and I know that this community will be happy for me rather than angry!" Regardless of whether or not these hunters actually are on Petopia or the Petopia Forums, they have the same mannerisms and thus they fall into this category.

Now, I realize that some people will be a hybrid of these - in some sense of the word. We ALL started off as Noobs at one point, and we have all probably had our moments of Rude Eliteness somewhere in there. But the majority of us in this community definitely fall into the last category.

In general, I do not post on the main forums because you'll get some combination of the types above. I have seen "The Noobs" posting on the forums, I have seen a few "Petopians" on the forums, but more often than not it's the Rude Elitists that are posting. I don't like trying to help out another hunter on the main forums, or a thread about something hunter specific, when nine times out of ten I get a reply from a Rude Elite telling me I don't know what I'm talking about because I don't have the absolute BEST gear in the game right now, and they looked at my achievements and I haven't done (insert raid or achievement here). It's just not worth it to me.

If I'm going to be posting on the forums, I would much rather post here, in a community that cares, rather than a community that more often than not tries to rip you apart for not being Mr. or Ms/Mrs. #1 Hunter.

Thank you, Petopians, for being the great community that you are.

[lilaughingwolf]

I so agree with everyone. I'd rather help someone get a neat pet then say "my pets better than yours" And Im sick of the "Hun-tard" lable too due to people being such buttmonkeys as hunters and giveing the rest of us a bad name. There are bad people in every class....cant we all just let our furries play together and get along

[Setanta]

I've found that those forums much like sports forums on the espn boards are frequented by lcders (lowest common denominators) and tend to treat posts made there as such.

[Lahni]

True, true.

In a way, though, I do agree with the OP. In all honesty... in a one camp spot, no, he doesn't own it - but it's the same as the TLPD, or any other camp. Sure he doesn't "own" it but it's incredibly annoying, and so so so much nicer/politer to bugger off or log out and check back every hour or two, even add the guy to friends and ask him if he'd share the spawn time when he tamed it. I myself get really shirty sitting here in Storm Peaks when people who I *know* haven't been in the zone recently rocking up and parking at or near the spawn point I'm at... end of the day, only one person will get the spawn and it's courtesy and decency to let the person who has been there the longest get it first.

But in some cases, the person who gets there second could actually be the one who has been camping the longest. They could have spent hours and hours every day for weeks, and they just happened to get there after you did that particular day.

That is why I always ask, when the situation occurs, how long the other person has been camping. If they've been camping longer than I have I tell them, "Oh, I'll leave; good luck, you deserve it more!" and if they have not, I say nothing and just hope that when the animal spawns I'm more quick to the draw.

The other camper could always be lying but then again they could not. Either way, it never hurts to ask.

[Makoes]

Before these forums exsisted (or that I knew they exsisted) I use to be the type who would kill a rare spawn if I'd been camping it and someone else came along and started taming it first. For me I believed that whomever was thier first had the rights to the spot, and to some degree I still very much believe that. Though now I will no-longer kill the rare, because as it was pointed out, that keeps the competition, rather then gets rid of it.
I try now to be very polite to other hunters, in the hopes of making a new friend. I respect that if someone is already set at a spawn point, I will not camp there but find some other place to camp. I hope that others do the same for me.

I find these forums are much like a small community and so many of the poeple here promote working together rather then competatively. And the few times I've been on Makoes <Petopians> for events or camping parties, everyone has been even more supportive of each other. I think in many ways because of this community, we have become more aware of the people behind the toons rather then be blinded by the toons.

Petopian Hunters Stand far above all other hunter types. But we do not lord over or frown down upon the others, instead we will reach down and say "Here, let us help you up here" Whether we offer our hand to the Noobs or the Elitests, we are offering our hand to a fellow hunter, and maybe, that hunter will offer his/her hand to help someone else up as well.

[Snowwalker]

Agreed. WE've all had our moments, and I know I've gotten sick of 'the label' I had a moment once where I chose to act like a jerk before even opening a dialog and it got ugly.
The next day, we met again. But we both silently decided to get off on a better foot. We hit it off, he helped me get an oil wolf, and to boot, we set up a mining arrangment that proved rather lucrative for me.

And in the end... I got my tame.

Since then, I have strived to be a petopian. I try talking to people if there's an issue. Sometimes they just don't know better. Sometimes they do, and, there's not much you can do about it. I'm known for having a knack for finding the rares, and I now use it to the benefit of others and have made some good friends along the way. Not to mention helping a few SAmbas and a Karoma find good homes. And I can walk away feeling good about myself. There's always tomorrrow. There's only one me. I wanna make sure I count for something.

[Azunara]

About the boards:

I would never, ever, ever post on the WoW forums. My already messed up ego just couldn't handle the spam of "YOU FAIL LOL." and I'd go off in a corner and be miserable. But that's just me. :p

About pets:

I've never really had much issue with other people there. When worgen rolled around, I thought it was at first, a first come first serve thing. Then a dwarf explained we were taking turns, and they supported me and helped me. We cheered each other, killed extra mobs, did everything we could to help each other, horde or alliance. We were one. We were Hunters.

On other mobs, I've never had competition except this one time when I was after Arcturis. There was a NE, and we talked and both camped and were personable. All was well. He never spawned, but I think, I hope, it would be a "Whoever tagged and started taming, it was theirs. And that's that." situation. If someone is taming a pet, I will leave it alone, regardless of faction. If someone is hunting a rare I don't want, I'll help them. If they're after my rare, I'll wish them the best of luck and the end. If it's a rare I find, I ask if hunters nearby want it, and if not, after waiting, I will kill it. Because I found it, it's my rare. I tried to see if anyone wanted it, they didn't, mine now.

So yeah. We all have different stances, but we can all agree in respect and politeness. If you bank on that, you will, without fail, be able to root out the awesome players and the mean ones, and the awesome ones will respect you and help you.

[Comett]

But in some cases, the person who gets there second could actually be the one who has been camping the longest. They could have spent hours and hours every day for weeks, and they just happened to get there after you did that particular day.

That is why I always ask, when the situation occurs, how long the other person has been camping. If they've been camping longer than I have I tell them, "Oh, I'll leave; good luck, you deserve it more!" and if they have not, I say nothing and just hope that when the animal spawns I'm more quick to the draw.

The other camper could always be lying but then again they could not. Either way, it never hurts to ask.

In my opinion - hehe, yes and no! I feel it's certainly polite to do as you'd do, so kudos to that, but I also think that the etiquette line stops there. I mean, yes, sure, they could have been camping there for 24 hours straight and popped off for a 2 hour sleep 30 minutes before you logged on, but... they did leave the spot They also could be a lying douche who'd do anything to get you to leave. It certainly doesn't hurt to ask, and in that case (if I were the newcomer) I would probably ask if they could share a spawn time when they get the tame - because I'm laid back like that and don't really care when I get it; this spawn or next haha. But yeah. Grey area!

[Novikova]

Yeah, I pop in to offer grats and advice on the official forums, but for the most part they're almost all cesspits.

[Lahni]

In my opinion - hehe, yes and no! I feel it's certainly polite to do as you'd do, so kudos to that, but I also think that the etiquette line stops there. I mean, yes, sure, they could have been camping there for 24 hours straight and popped off for a 2 hour sleep 30 minutes before you logged on, but... they did leave the spot They also could be a lying douche who'd do anything to get you to leave. It certainly doesn't hurt to ask, and in that case (if I were the newcomer) I would probably ask if they could share a spawn time when they get the tame - because I'm laid back like that and don't really care when I get it; this spawn or next haha. But yeah. Grey area!

Quite!

In all honesty it depends on my mood at the time, but that is what I usually do. At other times if I see another player even fly over my camping spot I'm like "Are you a hunter? no? GOOD. "