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WARNING: THIS IS A RATHER LONG POST.

I am an Alliance hunter on my server *Velen, US* and have a reputation of helping other hunters out in their search for many different types of rares. I prefer re-homing a rare rather than killing it/seeing it killed for its loot, if any. I have been known to announce in guild and local defense to see if anyone wants the rare I happen upon. If not, I leave it be and fly/walk away. Usually, I do not have any issues with anyone when it comes to camping a rare and everyone taking turns. Until patch 4.2 came out anyway.

Starting the day after the patch was released, trouble started to brew. I knew that competition for the new rares was going to be extremely intense. I expected some good-natured ribbing. However, the thing that I did NOT expect was to be treated the way I was not just by my faction but the opposite faction as well.

For example:
1) Skarr. I must have camped those floating rocks for a good 14 hours straight, not leaving that spot. Hunters came and went, horde and ally both. Other than a few hunters I have known for a while, everyone else left each other alone. When Skarr spawned around 2 AM, I tamed him using the tactics described here with no problem at all. My son and I had just seen the latest Transformers movie and he suggested that I name him Prowl, which I did. Then, as I was leaving the area to do my dailies, I was spat on by a horde hunter. I thought "how immature" and went about my way. The horde hunter followed me and made rude gestures/slapping me/etc. Eventually, he stopped but it was enough to leave me feeling irritated the rest of that day.

2) Karkin. This was an interesting one. Again, the same area was camped and I left the area to try my luck at taming Ban'thalos and while I stood at the top of the tallest tree like a Christmas Ornament near the Sanctuary of Malorne, a Death Knight friend of mine whispered me, saying "Karkin is out and the horde keeps dying while trying to tame him, lmao" and i was like "Let me know if they keep dying then i will go over there and give it a shot but I refuse to leave this spot if at all possible". DK agrees, 5 mins later, he whisps me again, saying "they are still dying, just come here real quick and tame him and leave, lol", so I decided I would go over there and see what the situation was before doing anything else. Needless to say, I get there a few moments later and there are like 8 hunters standing around, looking at each other and prolly saying "how the hell do we catch this crab?" An idiot ally rogue tries to get to him to stun him or something and is promptly seen and killed along with 4 of the horde that was standing around. No one makes a move. Karkin is looking pissed off but tired at this point and I decided that my stable could use another crab in it to keep Ghostcrawler happy. So I ask around me to the ally there if its ok for me to attempt to tame him. I get "Go for it!" and "Hurry!" and take a quick look around before pulling aggro, detecting Karkin's barrage AoE ability I utilize silencing shot, then smack my macro for deterrence and tame beast. Seconds later, I have crab. I mean, I literally have a crab by my side. Needless to say, the horde that was present there at the time was quite ticked at me. I get spat on and slapped and more rude gestures ensued. I was not going to take it this time. I spat and slapped back and promptly rode away, so pissed that I decided to name my pet "Payback"

3) Deth'tilac. This one is a definite sore spot. After another successful day of camping rares, I was luckily able to acquire both Ban'thalos and Magria with a lot of help from some dear ally friends of mine (Lateef, Our, Sono, and Tred!!). I was feeling pretty good about myself when yet another hunter friend whisps me saying that Deth is out and asks if I want him. I know a friend of mine was already actively camping him so I hurry over to the area and see that there is a tame in progress. At least, I thought so. My friend got Deth to nearly 20% and started the tame but a horde hunter that kept trying to steal aggro from him decided he wanted him, too. Needless to say, Deth met his maker that day. My friend was distraught and rightfully so. The horde hunter that killed Deth LOL'D at us before running away and we were dumbfounded. We all vowed to help each other out the next time to ensure that the same thing did not happen. But it did, to me this time. Same scenario, different day and time. And then again to my friend the next time he spawned. We were starting to feel like we were never going to get the purple people eater and tried to stay positive. Then came yesterday Friday July 8, 2011. I was camping that well known spot for several hours and Deth showed his face by spawning right in front of me at 3:10 PM. While I was kiting and throwing my traps down and sending in my trash pet brainfart for repeated sacrifices, I thought things were going well. Then another ally hunter shows up and starts throwing down her traps and sending in her pet. While I am reviving my pet, she takes aggro from me. I managed to get it back but this goes on for quite some time. Finally, another of my friends showed up and was trying to help me but this other hunter was just determined to take Deth away from me. And even though we went back and forth like this for a good while, when he hit 20%, the other hunter managed to start the tame even though I begged her not to since i had been camping for hours and she just showed up and happened upon us. to no avail. I did not get my Deth, and I was literally crushed. I felt like crying and started to receive a ton of whisps (thank God for WIM!) as to why I did not get the tame and if I knew the other hunter ( I did NOT know her nor did I care to). I did not and just thought to myself that maybe my luck had finally ran out. The other hunter just stood there with her newly acquired pet spider and I walked away in great despair, disappointment and sadness. :(

Why am I telling you all these stories? What it comes down to is respecting each other and the hunt itself. How hard is it to see that a spot is being camped or a tame is in progress and to just let things be and stay out of the way? Is it really necessary to emote with slapping and spitting and rudeness when a tame is made by someone? And why the heck would you want to ninja a rare pet anyway? It goes against everything I had come to believe in being a hunter since the beginning of WoW itself. Hunters should NEVER treat each other this way. Hunters should never be boastful or brag about their tames to someone that also wants that rare as their pet. And even though some of us are on opposite sides (faction wise) that does not mean that we need to treat each other like crap. Offer your knowledge to each other, give suggestions and advice but never think that you are better than anyone else. 8-)

So I wanted to say thank you to all those hunters out there that helped me and befriended me, and to the rest of you, well, you know what they say about Karma, right? Its gonna get you sooner or later. Probably sooner. :twisted:

Thanks for letting me vent here. :hug: This is therapy in itself :)
Laura AKA Lauryssa


Update: I am BEYOND STOKED to report that with the help of Ourlasthope and Petreus, I was finally able to tame Deth without a hitch! I would not have gotten this tame done without their help along with the help of others mentioned in the thread, and of course, everyone here that kept encouraging me, hugging me, telling me to keep trying and so forth. I will NEVER EVER forget every single one of you!

Now, another problem......I need a good name for my purple people eater.....lol. And one last note: this was my 12th straight attempt at trying to tame him and now my camping days are over for a while (I hope!). perhaps i should name Deth Persistence?? lol

HUGS TO ALL!!!!!!!!
Laura
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I could have said almost every word of this. Respect.
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Hi Laura!

I've heard LOTS of horror stories ever since this patch hit. I've never seen anything like it! People getting ganked for tames, people getting tames stolen (particularly Deth!), and other mean antics. Those people stealing rares definitely do NOT deserve the beautiful pets! It was a bad idea, I think, to put so many desirable rares in such a tiny, condensed area. I got ganked out of spite myself a few times.

Here is something I've noticed about the hunter class that isn't true of any other: among the decent ones, there's a sense of comradery and fellowship even with the opposite faction because we share a common goal - a rare pet. This can bring out the worst AND the best of people! I've seen and heard of people stealing rares, ganking people for rares, and just generally having a really bad attitude, but I've also seen an orc help a night elf take down Deth'Tilac so he could tame him, or a draenei /cheering at a troll hunter who'd just tamed Kirix because he got there before she did.

Basically what I'm trying to say, is there's two sides to the hunter community and they're radically different, haha.

Anyways, I'm sorry all that stuff happened to you! I really hope you get all the rares you're seeking.

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I'm sorry this happened to you!

This entire patch has turned people into monsters.

I've tried to not let it get to me. I've spoken with a number of people after Skarr on my server-Horde or Alli like me. Hell I even jump over to my Horde toon and tell the Horde campers the time if I see the last spawnfor the crab. I spent a good thirty mins walking a horde hunter through how to add npcscan ids to his npcscan and how to clear his cache because he had no blasted idea how. Instead of killing Karkin again when he kept showing up on me, I whispered hunters until I found someone who wanted him to come and try taming (he did get him too!).

Last night I logged and heard that missed Skarr by about 30 mins, one of my fellow campers got him and was so happy they told me as soon as I logged in. I wanted to cry-I really did. I won't get to play for awhile, and to miss it by just 30 mins-when I was awake tossing and turning about things-bah.

A NE that shall remain nameless logged right as I was finished talking with the happy new owner, in a camp spot right in front of me. I told them they just missed the tame by about 30-45 mins by then.

Jerk had the gal to call me a liar to my face an accuse me of trying to trick them so I can get a tame over them. I know it's not a big thing, but it did seriously piss me off last night. I bust my ass trying to be as helpful as I can to my fellow hunters-and I don't expect anything in return, nut to be called a liar and a schemer for all my efforts?

Makes me want to kill the rare the next time I see it.
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This is the whole reason that I've decided to stay out of the taming fray known as the Molten Front. I was lucky to have gotten my Ban'thalos...and he's about the only new one that I'm going to try for, for a while. It's just too much stress and too much competition. I've got better things to do with my time then fight with other hunters over rares that will be there from now on. Deth has a spot for her in my stable and it doesn't matter to me when she decides to come home. <3

It makes me sad though, because it's brought out a LOT of rivalry and not just with alternate factions. I've been going out of my way as of late to congrat a few of the alternate faction on their new rares, but every once in a while...like yesterday, I just won't. Found someone sitting in Ban'thy's tree with their Skarr out. Come on, now, don't be a show off. You can't really be 'BONDING' with your pet while sitting in a tree. :/

I've gotten both good and bad vibes from hunters during this patch and all I can hope is that everything settles down. Ya know?

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Thwip wrote:Found someone sitting in Ban'thy's tree with their Skarr out. Come on, now, don't be a show off. You can't really be 'BONDING' with your pet while sitting in a tree.
So would it be better for them to bond with Skarr by doing dailies in the Molten Front, instead? After all, they certainly can't have a rare out when they are in town either, because anyone doing that Must be showing off. Hey I know, they can travel to some remote mountainous village whenever they want to feed their new pet a biscuit!
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GormanGhaste wrote:
Thwip wrote:Found someone sitting in Ban'thy's tree with their Skarr out. Come on, now, don't be a show off. You can't really be 'BONDING' with your pet while sitting in a tree.
So would it be better for them to bond with Skarr by doing dailies in the Molten Front, instead? After all, they certainly can't have a rare out when they are in town either, because anyone doing that Must be showing off. Hey I know, they can travel to some remote mountainous village whenever they want to feed their new pet a biscuit!
Ahaha, wow, way to take that to the extreme. To me sitting and waiting on one rare with another at your side is kinda showing off. "Hey, look what I got, look what I got, look what I got. I'm gonna sit for this rare spawn and show all the other hunters what I got while I wait for another." IMO, that's just show offish. Also...I find it impractical to sit for a rare with another pet out. That'd just cost you valuable time. I in NO way said that they need to go out of their way to bond with their pet in some remote location where they're not gonna cache anyone's NPCscan. I find bonding time doing quests and dailies and roaming about doing my thing, not sitting for a rare spawn. :roll: Again, this is MY opinion on what I personally see as showing off. I don't see the point and I don't call that bonding time, truthfully.

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I really don't understand the whole "I want it even though you were here first and if I can't have it then the pet will die!" attitude that seems to be the root of all this grief. I mean, think about it; if you let the person tame the beast who is already in progress of doing so then when you get to tame yours there will be less competition and a lesser chance of someone happening by if they already got what they wanted and moved along! You were too late this time, let the other person tame and have a better chance next time around yourself. It's simple common sense guys. :roll:

People seem to have turned into these greedy monsters that only care about themselves and their own ~*status symbols*~ which will make them a pretty little unique snowflake. (Hint: no it will not! ;) It's a videogame guys. )

OP: I'm very sorry that this had to happen to you. Especially the incident with Deth. You'll get the pretty spider eventually, good luck!
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onenation777 wrote:My son and I had just seen the latest Transformers movie and he suggested that I name him Prowl, which I did
Awwww come on now if you are gona give it a Transformer name there is only one way to go.... Ravage! black Metal looking cat with red eyes i mean it practically names itself
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Dr. Rockso wrote:
onenation777 wrote:My son and I had just seen the latest Transformers movie and he suggested that I name him Prowl, which I did
Awwww come on now if you are gona give it a Transformer name there is only one way to go.... Ravage! black Metal looking cat with red eyes i mean it practically names itself
Thats what I named my Skarr....Ravage. When I get Karkin, I'm naming him Mirage.

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Dr. Rockso wrote:
onenation777 wrote:My son and I had just seen the latest Transformers movie and he suggested that I name him Prowl, which I did
Awwww come on now if you are gona give it a Transformer name there is only one way to go.... Ravage! black Metal looking cat with red eyes i mean it practically names itself
Thats what I named my Skarr....Ravage. When I get Karkin, I'm naming him Mirage.

hmm i would lean closer to naming him Rampage if your going for a transformers theme. that's what i went with with my ghostcrawler
as far as Transformer themed pets go i have.

Raptor--Dinobot
Devilsaur--Grimlock (The coolest pet and coolest transformer ever!!)
Ghostcrawler-- Rampage
Orange wasp boss in AQ 20-- Waspinator
Deth'tilac-- Tarantulas
Skarr-- Ravage (Like i said it named itself)
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Tarantulus is orangish and green. The lava spiders are too skinny to be him. Movieformers, Mirage fits well with Karkin.

Megatron also works will with a Devilsaur.

Also Waspinator is green so the orange one wouldn't fit either.

But alas, we're going offtopic. PM me if you wanna continue this. ^^;

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on most mobs the color scheme wont match with the name its the fact of what they are that is more of what I'm going for as in a name
Like dinobots a raptor grimlocks a t rex ( and yea megatron would work to for that) and Rampage a crab so on and so on. It just happens that Ravage and scarr look alot alike

and as far as movie transformers go..... dont get me started those are just a embarrassment to the originals along with the last to movies......
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Waiting for Skarr or Karkin, you do have to have a pet out; the earth elementals occasionally need killed, and if someone tries to kill me, I need a pet out.

I would be cautious about the assumption that someone with a rare out is taunting those who don't have it. I think that is assuming motive without proof. Could just be that they are happy and excited about it.
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Morven wrote:Waiting for Skarr or Karkin, you do have to have a pet out; the earth elementals occasionally need killed, and if someone tries to kill me, I need a pet out.

I would be cautious about the assumption that someone with a rare out is taunting those who don't have it. I think that is assuming motive without proof. Could just be that they are happy and excited about it.
PvE Realm. Ban'thalos' spawn was the one in question, but yeah, I might be assuming a little much and yeah they might be excited. Being on an unbalanced server just tends to make one a little bitter, but I look at them the same no matter the faction. Granted. I don't want Skarr and I already have Ban'th, so it's not jealousy, just personal views/morals. I won't sit waiting for a rare spawn with another rare just because, I personally, see it as rude/showoff-ish. Again, like I've said three times. It's just my personal outlook. I'll roll my eyes at this from either factional side, mind you, and usually just go on about my business.

I guess that's just another way I try to respect other hunters, my own way of saying that I'd respect them enough not to have a new rare all up in their face while I'm camping a another new one. *shrugs* Just something from Wrath I got, I suppose, when I'd wait for Skoll and so many people thought it right to either sit in spawns with Loque out or come down and shove him in my face as I myself waited. People will play the way they want to, I can't change that, but it doesn't change my outlook. :3
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I chill with recently tamed pets while waiting on another, sure. I'm not doing much of anything while camping, if there's not a lot of people around I might as well spend some of that 'nothing' time ogling the pretty I'm still getting accustomed to. My paranoia (especially with others around) would eventually lead me to dismiss it so that I wouldn't lose precious seconds in case of a spawn, but I felt no harm in eyeballing a Regrowth rare in the Molten Front, or vice versa.
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The thing thats getting me is that hunters are deliberately pulling out their rares, while on the camping spot. They do it just to set off npc scan so you wont see if one spawns unless you log out and clear the cache. Once you've done that, no matter how quick you were, you've lost your camping spot. A lot of the time I see hunters (both factions) pull out as many new rares as they have, laugh at every hunter there, mount up and go again. It's delibrate and it's sad :( I've seen this the most up by the Skarr/Karkin spot. Those with Skarr already will sit there with him out on the platforms. They are waiting for Karkin, so they are allowed to sit there ofc. But imo, if you're waiting to tame a pet, why are you sitting there with another pet out? Not to mention a pet that could spawn on the spot your sitting on.

I tend to reply to other hordes that are like this. Just yesterday one came up and sat next to me with Deth out so I /s 'its ok, I'm not after Deth so I don't mind you setting off npc scan deliberately.' He stopped jumping on me then, mounted and ran away.
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Blame it on Blizzards idioty. If you are on a PVP server like me, it is even worse. I mean I am happy I got Deth, no one was there for the 5 minutes at 3:30 am. Two minutes later a horde hunter and two DKs showed up, gave me bad emotes and killed me. But I was so happy Deth was mine, I could (luckily) laugh about them. What happened to you though would have made me going crazy.
I do not think that it was a good idea to put 7 rares in such a small area. Perhaps phasing would be a good thing if you are on a tame or something like that. I do not know if it would be possible, but it might be a way :O
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