Hunters in Mop, pvp issues once again

[Sasrei]

Right now as it stands we went from be ok in pvp, not to good in high end pvp but heck we survived.
We went from pvp now:
1) Low focus regen
2) Have mages frost you and rofl stomp you while standing on you. And having min range which can be an issue if your disengage is on CD and your slow/stunned/cc'd/

To as it current in MOP beta(yes it could change and I hope it does)
1) Still low focus regen, and now having your focus regen shot dodged/missed.
2)Having your ccs/slow/snares etc dodged/missed
3)Trap on a wonky trap launcher apparently some say its a smaller hit radius and you get the chance your trap will be missed or dodged.
4)Have your high focus shots dodged/missed.

I think we went back an expansion or two instead of forward. But really most of this can be mitigated if you see a rogue/druid.. run.

Obviously I am hoping that they do fix this, as I enjoy pvp but good grief is I hated rogues to begin with.. I miss the good ole days when rogues hated me... lol.

[Slickrock]

You still having the dodge/miss problem with expertise capped? Also they did up focus regen, is it still not good enough.

For those high-focus misses, that would suck for MM, BM might be the way to go.

[Chimera]

i dont know how expertise works in all the levels except cap (since post-cata* people will probably not spend the gold to reforge when they are in quest item gear and not jp/vp gear in the 85-90 bracket) but if your required to have expertise from lvl 10 to cap, or even lvl 60 to cap, thats going to be real harsh. Specially because, being a dps only class, people tend to only create one end-game armor set and reforge it to their specc, so if your lacking the expertise cap and are not at least BM so the pet can do most of the pew pew, then your gonna do just as bad as the guy who hides in the shed at blacksmith eating up all the free honor, cept you'll have a big wad of numbers where it says 'total deaths' :S

That is why im particularly worried about pvp, im thankful at the very least that i dont pvp on hunters, ive always felt more comfortable on mana-casters and melee for whatever odd reason (seriously, hunters do some sick damage and really rake up the honor sometimes, yet i just cant be one in a bg xD)

*people who didnt make it to lvl 85 before MoP came out

[Stotan]

You need 5% hit and expertise in pvp. I totally agree hunters have a hard time at the start of like every expansion. We just benefit more from later tiers. In cata the first 2 seasons only glad hunters could barely get 2200 . If you need any macros or anything I would be glad to share.

I do like the new bgs it's like none stop pvp and it's really fun:)

[Kalliope]

Thank you for mentioning gear, Stotan; that's what I was thinking myself.