Correct me if I am wrong...

[ImmaGoku]

So, correct me if I am wrong as said on the title, just don't be a dick please.

People bash others with sexuality and racism, but, didn't Hitler do the same, except take it to the next level...?

*I might be wrong*

So if I said something like "People hate Hitler, yet they follow in his footsteps when they criticize people who are different."

Would that be right? or would I just seem like a jackass?

Again, feel free to correct me, just don't be a dick. c:

[Syleye]

Personally I feel a statement like that would be a bit on the extreme side so much goes into why people do and say the things they do, as well as why people feel a certain way. Your intent for saying it may be to shock them into waking up or coming around but I have found that sort of forcefulness can have a depressing opposite affect causing them to push away even farther into their hatred or bashing, and their is a huge difference between having personal feelings that may be, hmmmm, a bit different from what is acceptable and mass killing people. Anyways just my 2 cents, interesting question though

[Turgus]

Your statement would be an "Reductio ad absurdum" just because someone criticizes racism it does not mean they are equivalent to Hitler.
It would seem that a statement made with this reference is meant to shock and in so doing put an end to the conversation.

rac·ism
1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2: racial prejudice or discrimination

prej·u·dice
1: injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's legal rights or claims
2:a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a race, or their supposed characteristics

http://www.merriam-webster.com

As you see by their definitions racism and very negative influences on society, so confronting and fighting against them is the right thing to do, especially if one finds oneself having these thoughts and feelings.

It should also be noted that Hitler was racist and prejudice and that they informed his actions based upon the "greatness" of the "aryan race" which directly contradicts your statement.

[GormanGhaste]

Godwin's law

[ImmaGoku]

Godwin's law

It was never a discussion.. for it to be a discussion there has to be some sort of story told, I was simply asking if my phrase was in the right direction. Which I found was perfectly answered by Syleye.

[Novikova]

I think also there's a difference between being ostracized for being odd and being ostracized for extreme views. Look at the Westboro church. They're pretty much regarded as horrible people (I think so, but hey, gloating over dead people at their funeral is pretty lousy no matter how you slice it imo. And that's just the icing on the cake) and there's a lot of empty houses going for as low as the 70 and 80 thousands in the neighborhood they live in. That's dirt cheap for a house.*

Also, shock statements like that have to be done very well and carefully or they backfire spectacularly.


*These houses were not empty or as cheap before. This should tell you that no one even wants to LIVE near those folks.

[Sukurachi]

Sadly, there ARE people in the U.S. who would push things to the extent that Hitler and his Nazi party did.
Recently a number of "christian" radio personalities have called for the arrest and execution of gay people.
There are a number of extremist Muslim preachers who have called for the same thing (though this has mostly been seen in the U.K.).

When people start calling for executions of a group of people for no other reason that their belonging to that group, there is a serious problem. There should be limits to "freedom of speech".

[Syleye]

I will have to respectively disagree with you Sukurachi, freedom of speech should not be infringed, whether or not we approve of the message is not what it's about further more trying to curtail freedom of speech does absolutely nothing to curtail the thoughts or actions that go along with certain mindsets, the way I figure it if I can hear them I know know where to avoid.

[GormanGhaste]

There are exceptions to free speech, including threatening or inciting violence, and government regulation of offensive broadcast media.

[Novikova]

I will have to respectively disagree with you Sukurachi, freedom of speech should not be infringed, whether or not we approve of the message is not what it's about further more trying to curtail freedom of speech does absolutely nothing to curtail the thoughts or actions that go along with certain mindsets, the way I figure it if I can hear them I know know where to avoid.

Speech is like swinging your arms in a circle. You can swing them around all you like, but your right to swing your arms ends at my face.

The exceptions list was posted above and I agree with some, but not all of it. We don't need to let people threaten (sincerely) to murder one another, certain acts involving children, and so on. Hate speech shouldn't be protected. We should punish companies for false advertising. In the case of medicines, it could be potentially lethal.

[Syleye]

Hate speech to a point is protected and should be...I mean who draws the line, you or someone who thinks differently than you, its idealistic to think that banning thoughts that come out through speech will fix anything, that being said it IS against the law to use words to incite violence there are many laws that do not protect people from knowingly hurting others physically or financially through words. Also it is illegal for medical companies to KNOWINGLY lie about their products. Actually the only people for whom intentionally hurting others or inciting is not illegal is the media.

[AdamSavage]

Sadly, there ARE people in the U.S. who would push things to the extent that Hitler and his Nazi party did.
Recently a number of "christian" radio personalities have called for the arrest and execution of gay people.
There are a number of extremist Muslim preachers who have called for the same thing (though this has mostly been seen in the U.K.).

When people start calling for executions of a group of people for no other reason that their belonging to that group, there is a serious problem. There should be limits to "freedom of speech".

West Baptist church, is pretty good @ taking Aim at Gay People...