Aimed Shot and traps no longer work in macros

[Worba]

I know they've been hotfixing all day so maybe this will be fixed soon, but just figured I'd mention it for those other MM hunters out there... you can cast AS fine from spell book or hotkey, but if you try and cast it from a macro, like

#showtooltip
/cast Aimed Shot

It casts autoshot instead, and throws some error like "you can not do that now" or etc... also, the icon for the macro shows as gray, as if you didn't have a ranged weapon equipped or something.

Ugh.

[Sarayana]

I haven't tried macroing Aimed Shot, but I also have macro problems. I decided to make a trap launcher/trap macro for each trap (though I'm debating whether it's worth it, since I still have to hit it twice and click the targeting circle...) -

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/cast Trap Launcher
/cast Ice Trap

It works like a charm, except with the snake trap, where I get the "invalid target" error message. Works fine if I just press the buttons manually...

I don't know if it's that certain spells' code is slightly borked, or if it's a macro issue, but I'm certain we'll see lots of hotfixes over the next few days. If Aimed Shot is meant to be macro'able in the way you're doing it, then we'll probably be able to do so soon.

[Lisaara]

Not that you should use macros for rotations anyway cause you end up doing less DPS than doing it manually....
I haven't had issues with other macros though.

[Sarayana]

That's not always the case Taluwen. It's somewhat been true for Wrath, but back in TBC the macro was the way to go for BM hunters. Even at that, most raiding MM hunters in Wrath macro silencing shot to their other shots, and many of us use macros to fire off our long cooldowns at once. Macros are far from useless.

[Anyia]

I don't fire a single non-autoshot without a macro. This is as I have two macros bound to the mouse scroll wheel, and the macros themselves are essentially a shot-selectors based on modifier key (shift, ctrl, alt and combinations thereof) and current spec.

I can conclusively state that all of the BM shots work fine in a macro! Of course, you would have thought that would be something you could take for granted... *grumble*

[Lisaara]

That's not always the case Taluwen. It's somewhat been true for Wrath, but back in TBC the macro was the way to go for BM hunters. Even at that, most raiding MM hunters in Wrath macro silencing shot to their other shots, and many of us use macros to fire off our long cooldowns at once. Macros are far from useless.

WHU has reported much different. They said those who did use macros, even in TBC, did far less dps than those who manually did it during procs and such as needed. I trust their word and my own results too.

[Saturo]

That's not always the case Taluwen. It's somewhat been true for Wrath, but back in TBC the macro was the way to go for BM hunters. Even at that, most raiding MM hunters in Wrath macro silencing shot to their other shots, and many of us use macros to fire off our long cooldowns at once. Macros are far from useless.

WHU has reported much different. They said those who did use macros, even in TBC, did far less dps than those who manually did it during procs and such as needed. I trust their word and my own results too.

That's a different kind of macro. Macroing in Silencing gives you an additional shot, and macroing all your burst CDs to one button can help you get a bigger initial burst. Then you need to time them without macroes. The kind of macro that lowers DPS is the stupid "Push this button and you use all your shots *Flail*!" kind.

[Lisaara]

That's not always the case Taluwen. It's somewhat been true for Wrath, but back in TBC the macro was the way to go for BM hunters. Even at that, most raiding MM hunters in Wrath macro silencing shot to their other shots, and many of us use macros to fire off our long cooldowns at once. Macros are far from useless.

WHU has reported much different. They said those who did use macros, even in TBC, did far less dps than those who manually did it during procs and such as needed. I trust their word and my own results too.

That's a different kind of macro. Macroing in Silencing gives you an additional shot, and macroing all your burst CDs to one button can help you get a bigger initial burst. Then you need to time them without macroes. The kind of macro that lowers DPS is the stupid "Push this button and you use all your shots *Flail*!" kind.

Ooh. Sadly, I see a lot of hunters doing this or wanting to do this now. ><; Not here, I mean ingame though.

[Leggo]

For what it's worth, I use macros for all of my shots because all of my shots are written to fire at my mouseover if I have one and if I don't then it fires at my current target.

[Worba]

Saturo is right - maximizing DPS doesn't preclude use of macros it just means you have to set up your macros intelligently, e.g. instead of throwing your whole rotation in one macro (which as noted will hurt your DPS), you can break it up into 2-3 according to what makes sense to group together, and it will work just fine (and save you from carpal tunnel).

Also to the guy who was using the trap launcher, instead of having 2 /casts in the same macro, use /castsequence - that worked pretty well for me (although I'm finding that positioning the blast template is feeling a bit clunky...):

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=20 Trap Launcher,Snake Trap

[Sarayana]

Thanks Worba, I'll test that out tonight. I agree about the positioning, but if I save space on my bars (and save myself from carpal tunnel ) it's a step in the right direction.


(Also, I'm not a guy)

[Mockingbird]

I'm going to try using
/cast [button:1] Whatever Trap
/cast [button:2] Trap Launcher

Since I rarely PvP, I tend to have my traps on their own part of bar that I click - I'm quick and accurate enough that it doesn't cause trouble in PvE, where the reaction times are naturally more lenient.

therefore for regular trap, left click. For launch, right click/left click/target click.

[Sarayana]

I'm going to try using
/cast [button:1] Whatever Trap
/cast [button:2] Trap Launcher

Since I rarely PvP, I tend to have my traps on their own part of bar that I click - I'm quick and accurate enough that it doesn't cause trouble in PvE, where the reaction times are naturally more lenient.

therefore for regular trap, left click. For launch, right click/left click/target click.

Ooh, if that works I might use that! I want to save bar space, but it's annoying to have to click-click-target-click to drop a trap at your feet... I'm just not as good at macros as you guys

[Worba]

Yeah, speaking of traps... they don't work in macros either... UNLESS you first cast trap launcher.

E.g. if all you want to do is drop a trap where you're standing, this won't work:

#showtooltip
/cast Immolation Trap

It seems like both our traps and our aimed shot won't work from macros unless some kind of proc (master marksman for aimed shot) or preparatory spell (trap launcher) has first been cast.

I've reported both on the bug forums however I'd encourage anyone to go lend a voice to this so Blizzard understands the magnitude of the problem.

I've been playing from a few months after the game went live, and I've never seen a patch this buggy. Honestly it feels like I'm in early beta, and the bugs are so bad I have no desire to play beyond checking in to see if any have been fixed...

On the bright side, I did notice they fixed a problem with mount macros (yesterday AM mounts couldn't be summoned from macros, but it got fixed an hour later), so hopefully they will get to this...

[Worba]

I'm going to try using
/cast [button:1] Whatever Trap
/cast [button:2] Trap Launcher

Since I rarely PvP, I tend to have my traps on their own part of bar that I click - I'm quick and accurate enough that it doesn't cause trouble in PvE, where the reaction times are naturally more lenient.

therefore for regular trap, left click. For launch, right click/left click/target click.

Hmm. I like how your macro lets you see the trap you will be casting, however it doesn't let you unload 2-3 at a time.

This is what I'm thinking of using (once they get around to fixing macro spells that is) - I only went with 2 traps each since it seemed better balanced but you could add a 3rd if you felt like it:

"Traps - Single"
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=8/combat Trap Launcher,Immolation Trap,Trap Launcher,Snake Trap

"Traps - AOE"
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=8/combat Trap Launcher,Explosive Trap,Trap Launcher,Ice Trap

[Worba]

UPDATE: I've verified snake trap DOES work in macros, so it's just the others that are still offline.

[Nimizar]

My guess is that this is a similar situation to the one affecting druids in Tree of Life form (all macros for their heals that are affected by ToL break).

When we hit Trap Launcher, our traps actually switch to be different spells. This confuses the macro engine, since it tries to use the "normal" trap spell, which isn't actually available until the TL effect is used. With Snake Trap working in this context, I would be curious if it works *without* Trap Launcher already being active (I also note that ST is the only new trap we learn after learning Trap Launcher, so that could explain any differences in the order the abilities are tried by the macro engine).

This is the post GC made in response to the druid ToL macro issues.

No clue on why Aimed would be stuffing up though, unless it has something to do with it now being a spec ability. Do Intimidate and Explosive work in macros at the moment?

[Worba]

My guess is that this is a similar situation to the one affecting druids in Tree of Life form (all macros for their heals that are affected by ToL break).

When we hit Trap Launcher, our traps actually switch to be different spells. This confuses the macro engine, since it tries to use the "normal" trap spell, which isn't actually available until the TL effect is used. With Snake Trap working in this context, I would be curious if it works *without* Trap Launcher already being active (I also note that ST is the only new trap we learn after learning Trap Launcher, so that could explain any differences in the order the abilities are tried by the macro engine).

This is the post GC made in response to the druid ToL macro issues.

No clue on why Aimed would be stuffing up though, unless it has something to do with it now being a spec ability. Do Intimidate and Explosive work in macros at the moment?

Ehh... yes and no. Here is how it currently stands with casting these from macros:

Aimed Shot: works only if master marksman is ON

Snake Trap: works only if trap launcher is OFF

Others (explosive, immo etc): works only if trap launcher is ON

Hopefully Blizzard will wake up and fix this next tuesday.

[Nimizar]

Ehh... yes and no. Here is how it currently stands with casting these from macros:

Aimed Shot: works only if master marksman is ON

Snake Trap: works only if trap launcher is OFF

Others (explosive, immo etc): works only if trap launcher is ON

Hopefully Blizzard will wake up and fix this next tuesday.

It's almost certain that it is the same problem then. Whether it is the normal or the modified form that works in macros is just a question of which of the two spells appears first in the internal list consulted by the macro engine.

I wouldn't put money on it being fixed before 4.0.3 though (since macro engine changes generally require a client side patch).

[Worba]

It's almost certain that it is the same problem then. Whether it is the normal or the modified form that works in macros is just a question of which of the two spells appears first in the internal list consulted by the macro engine.

I wouldn't put money on it being fixed before 4.0.3 though (since macro engine changes generally require a client side patch).

If so, why were mount macro commands fixed the morning after 4.0 came out?

Having given up on the endless postponements, Weds morning was the first time I logged in since 4.0, and discovered that none of the mount commands were recognized in macros.

I posted on the bugs forum, and then literally an hour later when I logged in next, my macro mount commands were working normally again. It was almost too good to be true.

So, keep the faith I say - at least someone over at Blizzard seems to remember [many of] us players use macros!