That Silent Animosity...

[Ryai]

So originally, I was gonna camp for Krush but all I ever saw was Loque. So I decided to wait and level a bit more then start camping again.

At first I was going to camp for Terrorpene, but then an ally hunter and paladin duo showed up and started multispawn camping/pathing... so I had a bad gut feeling when they didn't disappear after 15 minutes. I didn't want to get into a possible tag war. So decided back to the basin I go...

So notice that afaik only one other operson is in the zone, another hordie hunter. So after a moment, whisper him/her and ask are you after Krush, Aotona or Loque?

Nada response. 5 minutes later, they log off.

I frown and mentally try to shrug it off, with a comment in Gchat.

Bit of time later, there's another hunter. So I hesitate a moment before deciding, this hunter surely will be more friendly and understand my intentions, right?

So whisper, after Loque or Krush?

Silence.

I wait a bit, before attempting another ice break, saying if he/she was after Loque I would gladly keep an eye out for them. And if after Krush well, whomever gets to him first, gets him tbh.

And again a bit of time later, more silence and they just log off.

I just don't get it tbh, did I really come off as someone with ill intentions or did I just get to nosy? :/

[Yaone]

I wouldn't let that get to you, some days people are just antisocial. I am even guilty of it myself. (enter long hours of camping rare here). But enough about that, good luck on catching Krush!

[erwil]

If I see someone on a camping spot for a rare, I always try to whisper them. I usually get an answer and promise to keep an eye out for them. But sometimes, it's just silence. I don't really know if it's just people being paranoid about trolls or that they're afraid I'll steal their tame. Then there's of course people who're not that good with English, or kids that're very shy.

[Clou]

Mm - I always send tells if I see other Hunters in the area; I'm just curious - and spend so much time questing, I don't get a reason to chat to fellow Hunters often. A lot of the time, I'm just doing fly-overs, so if they've been camping for hours, I'm happy to let 'em get the tame; no responses though - guess they just see it as competition?

[Kurasu]

You mention that he was in the zone. Is it possible that they were doing some botfarming, and that's why they didn't answer?

[Clou]

You mention that he was in the zone. Is it possible that they were doing some botfarming, and that's why they didn't answer?

Ooh, that's true. Back in Wrath, there were always bots by the Avatar of Freya, where the mobs constantly spawn - usually DKs and Pallies - not sure if it could work with Hunters, cause of pet micro-managing, but I don't know jack-squat about bots, so maybe?

[Carousel]

I've experienced quite the opposite during my rare hunts, actually.

Whether we were camping the same pet, or different pets, I've had nothing but pleasant conversations with many hunters (twice, even cross-faction, surprisingly enough). I've kept in touch with some, cheering them on when they message about a new tame, or help them with their next desired tame by sharing strategies or personal experiences. I've even co-hunted recently with a new hunter pal, where we circled a zone looking for both of our desired pets, and we've been really successful! It also greatly alleviates the pressure of competition.

Fortunately, I haven't yet experienced the 'silent hunter.' I think hunters have it hard enough already, that by not communicating with other hunters, we are only putting ourselves at a disadvantage. Even if we're after the same pet, by having a friendly (if short) conversation about the rare(s), both of us are at a better advantage than those who keep to themselves.

Even if your competition tames the pet you were also after, if they tell you they tamed it, you can try to plan accordingly. So, I always make it practice to offer the same courtesy.

And I, for one, am anxious to share information to other hunters I've met on my trips. I'll mail letters about spawn times of a new tame, or keep them in mind when I do rounds to check if any rares I already have are up. I'm anxious to help other hunters!

Hmm.. I guess all I meant to say was that I absolutely understand your frustration with silent competition, and I truly think that person is not only putting you at a disadvantage, but also themselves. Other hunters are a great resource to each other. But not all hunters are silent, don't worry!

I'd loved to have had you around with me during my hunts in Sholazar!

[Sasrei]

Usually I make a good conversation with other hunters who are camping there. But also I think maybe they just have there char parked there, have the sound up extremely loud and go and do others things. I did that a few times on Sas while camping for Madexx, just sat at one spot and went into another room to watch tv while waiting to hear the drums ^.^ Or they could just be anti social.. ive seen a few like that.. but eh

So dont let it get to you. Theres nothing you can really do about that except keep on waiting for your rare to pop.

[Comett]

A camp is made so much more bearable if you have someone to chat to while you stare at the same spot for hours on end. I remember a couple of hunts where I got friendly with someone else camping the same beast/one in the same area, and I've made some great hunter friends from it.

Keep it up, I'm sure there are others out there who are much more appreciative of some friendly competition

[Ryai]

You mention that he was in the zone. Is it possible that they were doing some botfarming, and that's why they didn't answer?

Nah. No one is in the basin, it's just, it's dead. Lol. Only time non hunters come is for ore, herbs or for the once every three day egg of disappointment.

The problem I think is mentioning Krush and or Loque. Case in point, log in after calling it a night after 3/4 hours. So log in, notice another hunter in the basin. Actually manage to start a small chat and- after mentioning Loque and how I could keep an eye out if they're after, they just leave. Well went silent first, then left. Atleast they answered about Krush, and were hopefully honest.

Atleast this thread eases my endless circling in silence pain.

[Cialbi]

Well, whenever you send a tell to someone who's flagged Away, you get an automated reply that notifies you of the fact. So, if they were AFK, then it hadn't been for very long.

I can see why this is bothering you; it's almost as if you are crossing an invisible line of some sort. But, you have to keep in mind that some people find certain situations a lot more awkward than most people - if you say hi to a passerby IRL, and they ignore you and almost seem unsettled, it may very well be that they simply have something akin to stage fright in that situation, and that you shouldn't take it personally.
Let's just say I know what it's like to be on either end of such an encounter

[Comett]

I find it really rude to ignore a message like that though. So what?

"So I was looking for Krush, but if I see Loque did you want me to let you know?"
- "No thanks, not interested/don't want him/already have him"
- "No thanks, I was actually after Krush too, but I'll let you know the time if I tame him"
- "That'd be great, I'll do the same for you"

Not hard. o_o

[Cialbi]

Comett, it may not be hard for you. However, for better or for worse, we aren't all like you. It may be an irrational fear, but so are many common phobias I can think of. Take spiders, for example. I am perfectly comfortable around then, knowing that they won't bite unless I am about to squish them. However, arachnophobes don't share my sentiment. I can tell them that all they need to do is stop screaming, pick up a piece of paper, and remove the spider; it's not rocket surgery. I can chide them all I want, but it won't do squat about the fear and anxiety they are currently feeling. So, I don't hold it against an arachnophobe for freaking out when there's a spider in their tent (not that it doesn't piss me off when they start screaming in the middle of the night ).
If you can understand and accept such things as stage fright, vertigo, queasiness at the sight of blood, and various common phobias, then please try your best to understand someone who won't look you in the eye or reply when you address them rather than decide that the only explanation is that they are being very rude to you. Just because you don't feel that irrational fear doesn't preclude others from experiencing it.

[Xelophant82]

I don't do a whole lot of camping but if I happen to just sweep an area and see someone else camping I'll try and talk to them so I can get times at least. That's how I managed to get Terrorpene at least. Most hunter's I've talked to have been really responsive, which I'm glad for, and I've also kept them informed on whatever they may be looking for. I'll go as far as to send tells to hunters in the zone to see if they were camping or not.

Some people are just weird I guess and don't want to talk and/or think you might get it before them.

[Comett]

Comett, it may not be hard for you. However, for better or for worse, we aren't all like you. It may be an irrational fear, but so are many common phobias I can think of. Take spiders, for example. I am perfectly comfortable around then, knowing that they won't bite unless I am about to squish them. However, arachnophobes don't share my sentiment. I can tell them that all they need to do is stop screaming, pick up a piece of paper, and remove the spider; it's not rocket surgery. I can chide them all I want, but it won't do squat about the fear and anxiety they are currently feeling. So, I don't hold it against an arachnophobe for freaking out when there's a spider in their tent (not that it doesn't piss me off when they start screaming in the middle of the night ).
If you can understand and accept such things as stage fright, vertigo, queasiness at the sight of blood, and various common phobias, then please try your best to understand someone who won't look you in the eye or reply when you address them rather than decide that the only explanation is that they are being very rude to you. Just because you don't feel that irrational fear doesn't preclude others from experiencing it.

I was talking from a generalised standpoint, not one regarding irrational fears. That's a perfectly reasonable "excuse" for being unable to reply, imo. But I doubt that every one of those people will have had an irrational fear.

So yeah, just to clear that up, I wasn't considering irrational fears into my above statement and was more thinking along the lines of people just point blank not bothering to reply because... well... yeah.

Edit, as an afterthought... I also know people are perfectly within their right not to reply for whatever reason. xD Perhaps "rude" was too strong a word: I guess I think it's pointless more than anything to just glasshouse yourself off from other hunters when you could a) get along really well with them or b) half your hunting/tracking time with the help of someone else. It's silly. Imo. xD

[Ryai]

Q.Q still no Krush.

Anyways I can understand the social awkwardness and shyness. I'm kinda a paradox. Usually I hate talking but once I start it's hard to shut me up at times. But still using it as a crutch/excuse to not speak to someone, all you'd have to do is say 'sorry not interested' or even just lie and claim 'I'm just here to farm'...

Mostly as it makes for less situations like;




<3 hyperbole.

[Bubbleme]

This is pretty much my opinion speech.

So I totally agree with the fact that it's not always a phobia or anything like that stopping them from talking. Even if it is, they can't really help it anyways. Perhaps they've gone AFK and logged themselves off incase someone does whisper them. Maybe they're just not in the mood for talking. There's several reasons for antisocialness, but sometimes people just logg off on you. It's really just life. You need to take a deep breath and realise that they aren't the only person in the world with you - and move on.

Onto other things...
I got king krushy last night! But NPCscan's broke now all because of a false alarm for Loq X_X I deleted my whole cache folder and IT'S STILL THERE, LOQ WITH THAT STUPID 'X' NEXT TO HIM. >_> Why can't NPCscan just import a 'Reset Cache' button into it's interface...

[Ryai]

But NPCscan's broke now all because of a false alarm for Loq X_X I deleted my whole cache folder and IT'S STILL THERE, LOQ WITH THAT STUPID 'X' NEXT TO HIM. >_> Why can't NPCscan just import a 'Reset Cache' button into it's interface...

Did you remember to exit the game first, and then delete? And if that doesn't work, log out, delete cache, uninstall npcscan and reinstall it.

[Bubbleme]

I exited wow, yes, so when my sister gets my monitor to stop flashing with random colours (I'm on her comp atm) I can reinstall.

[GormanGhaste]

<3 hyperbole.

I love that blog.