Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Nachtwulf wrote: Along that line, though... to ME it doesn't so much bother me that the projection, as it were, is set without player input. But it would be a lot better if the projection was different for every gun model... like what if the 'Elekk Gun' gave you a (small) elekk instead of a worg. Or the snake one gave you a snake? It's still more work than just 100 colors of woof, but it's not some vast project comprised of thousands of man-hours either. You'd have 5 (6?) models, with five (or whatever) color variants. And a lot more variety in what's dragging after your character.
I could go for that. I'd definitely like having an Elekk running after me, even if that gun is hideous (yaaaaay transmog!)

I would love that they would do the lightning effect ON every pet model, but like you said, very unfeasible, which is why instead they could give the 'selected' pet the ability of shooting lightning (a spell of some sort due to it being the 'second pet') I don't know the level of programming on that though.

Still, I think it would be nice if they give us a glyph or something to just choose a pet we have as our second like they're doing with the stampede. Something like 'the power of Hati has given you the ability to control 2 of your pets at the same time' where as without the glyph it be like 'the power of the titanstrike has given you the right to call Hati to your side.' something like that, I dunno. I'm not feeling very creative tonight with all the pollen in the air *bleh*

I mean I love Hati's new model and everything, but again, its like us all hunting Gara. We had a connection to Gara because of the hunt we went on, and I'm guessing that's what they're trying to instill in us with the Artifacts....but I don't feel like it extends to Hati for us BMs. And even when we tamed Gara, we had the choice to bring her out or get another one. I personally used Gara a good bit once I tamed her (I still need to tame the green glowing one >.>;; ), but still, I had the choice, I think that's the biggest thing that's off putting to us, we can't choose.
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Nachtwulf wrote:I don't think putting a lightning effect on a variable personally-picked summoned pet would be feasible just because they'd have to map the lightning arcs over every bloody model in the game...
No, they wouldn't have to. It is tremendously more doable than you're making it out to be, because it does not require any new skins.
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Plus the color of the secondary pet is supposed to match the gun....
You mean the gun that a lot of people will be xmogging over? "Supposed to" isn't a good reason. It's circular.
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Xota wrote: No, they wouldn't have to. It is tremendously more doable than you're making it out to be, because it does not require any new skins.
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Oh my, I had totally forgotten about that overlay, geez, I'm a blockhead, thanks for reminding me of that Xota. (Pandaria was a haze of beer, beer, and more types of beer, so I'm allowed to claim temporary memory loss! XD) She's right, that is a relatively simple overlay they could add, as the players would sometimes be struck with something similar and have the effect. Hmm...definitely a thought.

I was thinking of the wrapped lays they did with spirit beasties and the spirit wolves of this xpac, I'd totally forgotten about that little effect which could be added as a permanent for the chosen pet.
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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That is pretty cool. Maybe it'd work after all :) Apply that, and an aura underneath to make it more electrified.
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Not for nothing but it wouldn't be needed on 'Future pets' Either. They've already said that these weapons we're going to be putting everything into 'This' Expansion(Legion) are being left behind, just like our Garrisons are going to be. It's a "One expansion pony". So pets going forward won't need the effect anyway.

As for their ease.... *Shrugs* I'm not trying to be a jerk here.. but they get paid. Did you see how many dozens and dozens of 100% new high rez models the Druids are getting? Cry me a river if "Sounds like work" is an excuse being used. "That'd take a while to put the effect on every pet"

No.. Just the 'types' and as pointed out, the overlay isn't that difficult. Even if it were, you wouldn't need 100% new effect for every single cat in the game. Just the one cat model. (Well the tiger, the lynx, the mount tiger, etc) Which is a much smaller number.

So yeah... time for their people to cowboy up. DOn't tell me it's 'too hard' when we can look at druids who are getting dozens and dozens of different high rez models for their entire forms, per spec, weapon and race, and tell me that hunters would be hard to make something crackle.

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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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There are approximately 136 pet models so far. An overlay for each of them would consume artist time that would be better spent on other things, like making new pet models. Druids do not get "dozens and dozens" of new models for race x weapon x spec x form. Except for the non-artifact forms, all races share the same models. And form and spec are essentially the same thing. Criticism and feedback should be shared, but please use accurate numbers.

An anchored effect is much more practical, since it would probably need only occasional tweaking for scale, and that testing can be done by alpha/beta players.
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Looks like they're listening! :)
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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I'm so glad! :D This is so much better for everyone!

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Vephriel wrote:Looks like they're listening! :)
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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It's definitely not a perfect solution, but I really feel like our voices are being heard. :) I'm relieved that not only will I be able to keep my pets on MM alts, but also that I can at least have the option of changing Hati's appearance if I don't care for the wolf on a particular character. It was also great to get that glyph for Dire Beast earlier, they really seem to be listening to feedback.

Now all they need to do is hear us about the bear models. ;)
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Vephriel wrote:Now all they need to do is hear us about the bear models. ;)
Quoting for emphasis. x_x Although at the very least, I'm glad the old models are still going to be available in some capacity. *sits and waits for Mongress*

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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Vephriel wrote:Looks like they're listening! :)
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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I really hope the Essence Swapper isn't something that will take me half the next expansion to get :| :mrgreen:

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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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I was gonna post about this but I got beat to it. XD

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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Blizzard knows what's up.

The wording is a bit confusing. I'm ASSUMING once you do a swap, it's permanent until you do another swap. Rather than it always being a duplicate of your main pet.

I have no idea where to get this thing to test it out, if it's even available yet.

Now we just need Hati to flank our opposite side instead of being at the rear.
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Poor Hati

Today he turned me into a caterpillar. Me, the immortal companion of a demigod, now a fat, yellow grub. How did it come to this?

It's a great compromise idea though :)
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Nice compromise and interesting to see!

Has it's location been found in alpha yet? I am very curious as to how it is going to be obtained.
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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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So much good news today I'm just skipping around the office and hallways. This is awesome, an excellent option and compromise. I get and understand that to get rid of Hati too easily and early kind of waters down/dismisses the story of the artifact a little. (Whether you like the story or not) This looks like it's not going to be a "Oh just click and swap" it out straight away, and negate the fact that you have the companion of a demigod as a pet at your side, but may need to be acquired/earned/etc. And if you really care about swapping the look of Hait, you'll do it and it will show that your care because you wont have the same wolf as those that don't. As long as it's not overtly hard to get/gated by too much, I'm totally digging it :)

Blizz sure is racking up them kudos points today :D

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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Wow! I'm so impressed. Blizzard is really stepping up their hunter game today!!

- MM hunters get pets again
- No more brokeback bears
- Hati can turn into any pet with a little effort
- MoP-style rare tracking returns

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Re: Two Active Pets for BM in Legion?

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Wain wrote:Poor Hati

Today he turned me into a caterpillar. Me, the immortal companion of a demigod, now a fat, yellow grub. How did it come to this?

It's a great compromise idea though :)
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