*Spoilers* Sylvanas in Catacylsm

[cowmuflage]

Aye rasieing does not fix the body. Thats a standard for necromancer in fantasy useally. Ok i know the necromancers in the vampire counts army book useally have to resew the zombies back togther.

[Kayb]

no doubt in large part to garrosh's crap leadership, the horde does appear to be falling apart. no one likes or respects garrosh so he can't keep the horde together. i agree with an earlier post, Thrall will no doubt come back end game (or at some point) and reuinte the horde, making it strong and wise once again.

The Orcs got Garrosh, Vol'Jin and Sylv are at odds with him, the troll packed his bags, Cairne got murdered, the Goblins join no doubt thanks to Thrall but the Gob leader planned to sell his people as slaves. What issues will we see with the Blood Elves I wonder?

So far we seem only to have heard about Horde rumblings, what's going in the Alliance? What's Velen up to? What's Wrynn crying about now? Will Tyrande actually do *anything*? I'd be interested to hear what happening on the other side, they can't all be still peachy keen afterall. I want to see some internal hate towards the Worgen flare up! Alliance races typically hate on sight the more monsterish being of Azeroth, there must be some sort of backlash from the Worgen joining up.

[Nick]

What issues will we see with the Blood Elves I wonder?

Well, OTHER than the fact that Kael went all batshit insane on them and joined Illidan...

[Nevar]

You forget on the issue of the worgen they are heavily backed by the night elfs and they WERE the greatest human capital ever - I think thats respectable and that Varian would realize that. As for whining well he dosent he leaves that to Garrosh whos all emo and has a ever changing temper. Yup Varian's a huge Ahole at times I admit it but as it was posted in another thread based on all the bad hes seen of the horde he has his reasons and it isnt his fault if he hasnt seen a ton of good. Tyrande is probably very happy I'd guess I mean her mate is emerging from the emerald dream and I'm sure shes missed him. We shall see I'm eager to hear about the alliance side as well

[Kayb]

Just because a Night Elf backs a Worgen, doesn't mean the population of regular Humans might be as readily accepting. Heck, there is a mother load of Humans that probably don't even really trust any sort of elf, Night, Blood, High or otherwise. Its human nature, even in Azeroth, to be fearful of things that aren't completely human, I bet there some discomfort there somewhere. Ya gotta know a lot of folk weren't impressed when Gilneas withdrew from the Alliance in the past, right when they really could have used the support.

On a somewhat sorta kinda related note, where is Kul Tiras? I figured with them opening up so much of the world, we'd again see it not far from the coast of Gilneas

[Nevar]

Also dosent mean they wouldnt accept their brothers back, they may be cursed but they arent "plagued" - They can still appear as humans and have clear thoughts. You dont know for sure how they will react and neither do we. I mean when the blood elves joined the horde the whole horde minus the Forsaken were wary of them its why you start out as neutral, but you gain their trust and their friendship. Like everything else it may take time and the humans clearly trust the night elves as they have their own district in Stormwind that they are allowed to inhabit. Night elves have a very different personality than blood elves and high elves and have proved to the alliance that they can be trusted.

[Kayb]

I'm not saying they won't be trusted or overall accepted, I'm saying I would find it crazy if there wasn't SOME sentiment against them from with the Alliance. They're not all a peachy bunch after all

[cowmuflage]

Aye thats true.

[Nevar]

Forgive me if as alliance and having played alliance 99.9% of my entire WoW career, I feel different about my faction

[cowmuflage]

Sorry i did not mean about that but heck i have played alliance too and lore wise they don't feel as lovey dovey to each other as some people like to make them out as and heck to some (not you) LOVE to say that and it does get to me.

[Kalliope]

There's corruption on both sides; the Horde are just more blaze about it.

[Kayb]

I've played both sides through to 80, they're both as good and bad as each other.

Obviously as a whole the Worgen are trusted and accepted, they wouldn't have been let into the Alliance to begin with otherwise. I just don't think that every single member of the Alliance (i don't mean players like you and me, i mean the magical make believe folk we co habitat Azeroth with, the NPCs) would be thrilled about it.

That's all

Anyway, back on topic,

What can we really expect out of Sylvanas and the Forsaken? They are a race of zombies after all, if they weren't up for doing acts of dispisery then I'd be probably want to boot them out into the Twilight universe so Bella can sign up for Team Rotface and an even bigger joke of a love life. Now if the Forsake actively went out and slaughtered a bunch of people with the intention to raise them as new Forsaken, then I think things would be downhill from there for them. They'd probably be booted out quick fast by any Horde leader, Garrosh or otherwise for an act like that.

But Sylvanas is correct, she must do something or the people who have chosen to follow her will die out. She's still a zombie in the end

[cowmuflage]

A bloody hot one. I mean er... um man boys are cute >.>

[Gimlion]

What can we really expect out of Sylvanas and the Forsaken? They are a race of zombies after all, if they weren't up for doing acts of dispisery then I'd be probably want to boot them out into the Twilight universe so Bella can sign up for Team Rotface and an even bigger joke of a love life.

You have made my week. =D

[Kalliope]

Pretty sure Rotface's heart belongs to Precious.

Jus' sayin'.

[Nick]

Pretty sure Rotface's heart belongs to Precious.

Jus' sayin'.

Awwww, that's gross~.
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